Well i visited bass pro shop today in dallas and have changed my mind... the xds wasnt really a consideration. But after holding it and comparing it to the xd compact. I have to say i think i want an xds now. Fewer rounds but very carryable and i can easily carry the extra 5 round mag in my pocket if i feel i may meed more ammo. So if anyone has an xds let me know i want it. Im guessing its too new to find a used one so ill probably just get a new one.Mike if you get a chance, check out the XDs in a .45. They are new out, but you might be able to find one used!