Well I have shooting the Hornady 162 ELDX. I used n570 load data from QuickLoad and went 1 grain under it's max load to be safe. I did not start there but about 4 grains less. My better load today about a grain and a half under my max produced 3104 for a 3 shot group string.Extreme spread of 4. This was out of a 24 in Tikka M65 barel. A half grain more produced 3198. No pressure signs but accurracy fell off.. I must say I am very impressed with it.