His website is down or at least I cannot get through to it. Anybody got his phone number out there? A fellow on 24 hour campfire says the Farrell base is twice as thick/high as the Loopie Mark 4 base, which kinda explains some of my frustrations I have griped about on a few other recent threads here. Does Ken Farrell make super low rings to compensate for his thicker base? Can you help a brudda out here??? heh heh Thanks you'all!