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SOLD/EXPIRED **Brand New NF 5-25x56 ATACR**
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Beware! I tried to work out a deal with this guy and before I sent my check to him and having a deal, I simply asked for a picture of the product next to a piece of paper with the date on it. He ignored it the first time and everything was still a go on the deal. Then, when I asked again for a picture to insure the scope actually existed before sending $2,000 to a stranger, he blew up and said. "Deals off. Too much hassle."
So, either approach with caution, use a payment method that has an ESCRO system in place, or proceed at our own risk. He also told me multiple stories about the status of the scope or scopes plural. If it is too much hassle to snap a pic with your phone and push send when selling a high dollar item like this, it may just be too much hassle for him to package it up and send it to you.
For informational purposes. I have been scammed before and after using the method of taking a picture of the item you are buying with a piece of paper that says your name or the date just to confirm they aren't snagging pics from Google, I have avoided MANY scams and have also had a lot of pictures sent to me and the deal went fine. I'm not trying to slander this man, but, the picture he has posted could easily be snapped while at a gunshow and the whole calling off the deal immediatley after asking for a better picture of it... In my experiences... It means it doesn't exist. I mean, think about it logically... From all the motivation he expresses on selling this thing, you'd think he would be happy to snap a pic while he packages it up?... It would have been easier than logging into this site and post a response that it's still available.
Happy hunting to everyone. To the seller, I hope I didn't **** you off with this. It's the internet and I'm sharing my personal experience and quite possibly saving someone a lot of money. If it does exist and you just sent me a pic, you'd have the money in your pocket. Good luck
So, either approach with caution, use a payment method that has an ESCRO system in place, or proceed at our own risk. He also told me multiple stories about the status of the scope or scopes plural. If it is too much hassle to snap a pic with your phone and push send when selling a high dollar item like this, it may just be too much hassle for him to package it up and send it to you.
For informational purposes. I have been scammed before and after using the method of taking a picture of the item you are buying with a piece of paper that says your name or the date just to confirm they aren't snagging pics from Google, I have avoided MANY scams and have also had a lot of pictures sent to me and the deal went fine. I'm not trying to slander this man, but, the picture he has posted could easily be snapped while at a gunshow and the whole calling off the deal immediatley after asking for a better picture of it... In my experiences... It means it doesn't exist. I mean, think about it logically... From all the motivation he expresses on selling this thing, you'd think he would be happy to snap a pic while he packages it up?... It would have been easier than logging into this site and post a response that it's still available.
Happy hunting to everyone. To the seller, I hope I didn't **** you off with this. It's the internet and I'm sharing my personal experience and quite possibly saving someone a lot of money. If it does exist and you just sent me a pic, you'd have the money in your pocket. Good luck
azsugarbear
Well-Known Member
TacJack,
I get where you are coming from. We all need to be more cautious. However, part of being cautious means doing some due diligence on who we are buying from. A quick preview of jcvibby's profile would reveal many meaningful posts to threads over six years on LRH. He is listed at least a couple of times on LRH's 'Good Guy' list. A little more detective work would turn up the fact that he has completed many transactions with buyers both here and on snipershide. Not only has he sold hundreds of AR500 steel targets to buyers on these sites; he has also sold multiple scopes and a couple of rifles.
jcvibby has been a fixture on this site for quite some time. Because of this, most experience members take him at his word. I cannot recall reading about a single negative transaction. Being well-known in these kinds of circles, he typically doesn't have to take pictures of items he is selling. I get why you need to see it, but I also understand why jcvibby doesn't want or need the hassle. He can sell the scope without the addl. work that you require.
Perhaps a better way to approach the situation would have been to inquire from others on this site about their dealings with jcvibby, rather than posting a 'Beware!' caution in his thread that may have been totally unwarranted. Tread lightly, my friend, and you will do well on this site. I sincerely wish you good luck in your scope search.
I get where you are coming from. We all need to be more cautious. However, part of being cautious means doing some due diligence on who we are buying from. A quick preview of jcvibby's profile would reveal many meaningful posts to threads over six years on LRH. He is listed at least a couple of times on LRH's 'Good Guy' list. A little more detective work would turn up the fact that he has completed many transactions with buyers both here and on snipershide. Not only has he sold hundreds of AR500 steel targets to buyers on these sites; he has also sold multiple scopes and a couple of rifles.
jcvibby has been a fixture on this site for quite some time. Because of this, most experience members take him at his word. I cannot recall reading about a single negative transaction. Being well-known in these kinds of circles, he typically doesn't have to take pictures of items he is selling. I get why you need to see it, but I also understand why jcvibby doesn't want or need the hassle. He can sell the scope without the addl. work that you require.
Perhaps a better way to approach the situation would have been to inquire from others on this site about their dealings with jcvibby, rather than posting a 'Beware!' caution in his thread that may have been totally unwarranted. Tread lightly, my friend, and you will do well on this site. I sincerely wish you good luck in your scope search.
Appreciate that azsugar
tac, I told you I don't want to sell to you. You had a million questions and requests. Not worth my time sir. Sorry. Either you want the scope or not. But I don't have time or the desire to play games for days on end.
I'd rather sell to someone else.
Thanks guys
Jake Vibbert
Jubilee Youth Ranch
JC Steel Targets
tac, I told you I don't want to sell to you. You had a million questions and requests. Not worth my time sir. Sorry. Either you want the scope or not. But I don't have time or the desire to play games for days on end.
I'd rather sell to someone else.
Thanks guys
Jake Vibbert
Jubilee Youth Ranch
JC Steel Targets
I asked a million question? Literally only asked for a picture after bashing out your preferred method of payment. And as far as having to be Sherlock Holmes and investigate something and ask people's opinion on their credibility. Seriously? I purchased a BEAST, mounted it, fired it, and my *** is about to go have dinner before I leave for a deployment in two hours. Also, you speak without any knowledge of specifics. I don't even have a computer. I'm using a phone. I don't have time to run a background check before I buy something, especially when it can be easy as sending me a pic. Also, if it's just so easy to up and sell the thing, idk why this thread is even still up. And if asking a couple questions about an item is so detrimental to your ability to follow through on a deal, you're in the wrong business. There is more than one story I can think of where users old screen name has been hacked and used for unlawful purposes. I have no regret throwing a bewar comment up because I am still yet to see a picture. If taking one is so much of a waste of your time, why are you even spending any of your precious time trying to sell it? I still think it is suspect and I would still forewarn people before stepping forward. If this reputation is so impeccable, the person that buys it will not even take note of my mindless banter. Furthermore, I signed up to this site to sell a scope and buy a new one. This site is just like the hide. A bunch of people sitting behind a computer screen and not behind the glass of their rifles. Little less talkin. Little more shooting. I approached it respectfully and voiced the issue in a very mature manner and specifically stated I wasn't trying to bash him. But now I don't care. I'm extremely happy that the seller doesn't have my hard earned money and obviously is still left with a scope that could be sold by now. And if money is such a low priority that you'll throw away a sale because of one too many questions, then why even sell it? Just toss it in the trash after you get done stickin it really far up your fart box. Enjoy your scope commonly priced (private sales) scope that has yet to sell and good luck to you on selling it. Also, good luck to the man who buys it. I hope the best for all parties involved. Now please excuse me. I have some bad guys to go keep an eye on (through my second focal plane work of art!). Don't work too hard on your response, I'm not gonna receive it anytime soon. Good day
Tac thanks for your service, and send them bad guys to their delusional orgies
