Hello LRH forum members! Greetings from the flatlands of Illinois! I am currently load developing for a win model 70 super shadow in 300 WSM using berger 185 VLD's. I started out with the 210's, but could not get the velocity anywhere near what I wanted (reached only middle 2500's). This gun will be used for elk hunting in WY in The middle of October. My question is: After load developing with the VLD hunting, should I switch to the classic hunter? As I understand, the VLD hunting is made for custom chambers. I have a factory chamber. I felt lucky just finding any 185 bergers, let alone the classic hunter. I backordered a box of classic hunter. I started with H4831, working up to 68 grains and getting in the high 2700 FPS. The groups are from 2-2 5/8" @ 100 yards. I tried 63 grains of H100v and I'm getting in the high 2800's and cutting my group size in half from the H4731 load. Need to test more to confirm load. My H100V had the first two shots go out of the group, but the next 3 went into same hole @ 100 yards. 3/4" high x 1 1/4" wide. No wind @ 100 yards. Thank you for any advice!