aftermarket triggers?

Discussion in 'The Basics, Starting Out' started by jasonstewart, Feb 25, 2009.

  1. jasonstewart

    jasonstewart Well-Known Member

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    what trigger is best for hunting and taget shooting? is there one better than the rest? timney, basix, jewell? what are the pro's and con's. is it better to tune the factory trigger on a model 700?
     
  2. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure there is a "Best" trigger for everthing But there are triggers that will satisfy
    most of the requirements you ask about.

    If you look for a trigger that falls in the 1 1/2 to 3 1/2lbs it should cover all bases.

    As far as triggers go for this range of use I would rank them in this order.

    #1= Jewell with safety and bolt release, features= All internal parts are 440c heat treated
    to rockwell C 58 , all external parts including side plates are 300 stainless. The safety is
    a better design because it has a firing pin block that prevents the sear from dis engaging
    when the safety is released.Also the trigger can be removed without pieces flying every
    where because it has bushings and screws that hold it together.

    The main thing I like about the Jewell is that all of the adjustments are excessible from the
    outside while still in the stock.

    #2= The Timney with safety and bolt release installed.= Aluminum frame and steel internals.
    Fully adjustable (out of the stock) . Due to the thicker aluminum frame some inletting may
    be nessary.

    #3= I would place the older Remingtion triggers hear if set up correctly.

    #4= The rifle basic is about the same as a factory 40X trigger so why spend the money.

    I know some will disagree with the ratings but they are mine based on my experience .

    I have used a lot of timney triggers in the past and still recomend them even though
    the price has gone from around $60.oo to $150.oo .

    The Jewell is around $200.oo and would be my #1 recomendation .

    There are a lot of good specialty triggers available but for hunting and some target
    shooting these should work and make you happy.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  3. johnnyk

    johnnyk Well-Known Member

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    J E is pretty much on. He's had a lot more experience than I. I have adjusted numerous factory 700 triggers they are pretty good if adjusted properly. I only had one that I couldn't get down to "around" 2lbs. It was a stainless job on a Sendero SF. I figured it had a burr or something on it and since it was another's rifle, I had no intention of tearing in to it to hone the burrs off. I suggested he get an aftermarket but was too cheap. I would at least try to adjust it down to a repectable weight with no creep/let off.
    Up until a month ago, the only aftermarket that I'd worked with were Timney's and that was for the Savage 110. I replaced several of these and recommend them.
    I recently installed a Rifle Basix on my Savage 112BVSS. It was very similar to the Timney for installation and adjustment. They are definately better than the stock Savage triggers. The Remington stock triggers are better than the stock (non-AccuTrigger) Savages'. Some folks like the AccuTrigger and some don't; I don't have enough time behind one to give a fair evaluation of them.
    I talked with a fellow shooter at a range in Wa. and he told me that all the aftermarket triggers were pretty nice, better than most factory triggers, but if I ever got behind a Jewell there would never be another trigger that would satisfy me. It said it was the Porsche of triggers. I don't know.
    Occasionally, Midway has the various aftermarket triggers on sale. I have bought them for as low as $69-70.00 and just recently paid $85.19 for the Rifle Basix (shipping included). Give one a go. JohnnyK.
     
  4. canderson

    canderson Well-Known Member

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    There is a reason why Jewell is in business. They are the wonderful. Unless, you are using it in an extremely cold condition, you can get used to a light trigger (less than 1 pound) without much trouble. I used to shoot only Timneys until I bought a Jewell. If you can handle the cost, I see no reason not to use one.....and they are definetly worth it.
     
  5. nathank

    nathank Well-Known Member

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    What about the sss trigger?
     
  6. pjracer

    pjracer Well-Known Member

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    shilen
     
  7. trebark

    trebark Well-Known Member

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    J E Custom...or anyone else that has experience with Jewell triggers...how do you respond to those that say the Jewells are too sensitive...that if you get any piece of grit in them, they will malfunction.
     
  8. canderson

    canderson Well-Known Member

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    I have a Jewell on a 204 that rides in the truck with me everyday on the farm. I have not had a problem with any debris yet. It has been in the truck with me for about 8 months.
     
  9. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    Any GOOD trigger will some times act up when they are not taken care of.

    There is something to be said for simple ,but simple triggers like the old savage or the
    Winchester even tho they are very dependable they were not very adjustable.

    The reason I didn't list some of the other Triggers like the Shillen was they are essentally
    reworked remingtions and you might as well stick with the factory Remingtion trigger if it
    can be adjusted properly.

    Like johnnyK I to have adjusted a lot of remingtion triggers and most can be made to
    perform very well but there have been a few that would not work consistantly the same.
    so an aftermarket trigger was used.

    Also after reading my original post It may have sounded like the rifle basic was no good.
    this was not what I was trying to say but just that some after market triggers were not
    that much better than the factory one ( they all should be better but how much bang for
    your buck you would be getting).

    As to the sensitivity of the Jewell . The only thing I find sensitive is the adjustments.
    ( A 1/2 turn on most trigger weight adjustments will change the weight by about 1/4 of
    a pound, 1/8th of a turn on a jewell will do about the same.

    I can't find anything that I do not like about the Jewell (Even the price considering the precision
    workmanship,materals and design features). this is truely a case of "you get what you pay for"

    For many years I would'nt use the Jewell because of the price Difference but now there
    is not that big of a differance and once I tried one I was hooked.

    I still use other triggers based on need and use but when I want the best you can guess
    what I use.

    J E CUSTOM