on average, I see about .00145" runout (TIR) as checked off a NECO gauge with an Interrapid indicator. I have loaded twenty and even forty round lots that came in at the .00075" range. If I see .0017" runout, I stop and start to see what's wrong. The Wilson setup using necked turned brass, and bench rest quality bullets shows about .0007" on average. With my 6/250, and Amax bullets I'll see .0008"/.001" runout.I appreciate it. Ive heard and read that forster press and dies will produce results that are close to what wilson dies/arbor press will do and i believe that yal have confirmed that here. I reckon ill go with the forster press and dies as they seem to be much more user friendly and semi conventional.