Best concentricity gauge?

[travis74]

What are the best options for checking concentricity?

 

[Old Rooster]

SINCLAIR INTERNATIONAL SINCLAIR CONCENTRICITY GAUGE | Brownells

We believe the Sinclair Concentricity Gauge is the easiest to use and most accurate gauge of its kind on the market. Precision ...

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Sinclair I think but others may have a better idea.

 

[Old Rooster]

I was told this is the best but I need both of my kidneys.

Accuracy One Concentricity Gauge

The Accuracy One Concentricity Gauge measures the internal and external neck runout of a cartridge case as well as seated bullet runout.

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[QuietTexan]

To not to

Seriously, roll a round on a counter top, if you don't see the bullet tip wiggling or the sides of the case being a banana, it's fine.

 

[338 dude]

What are the best options for checking concentricity?

Don't!

 

[Mikecr]

Any V-Block type: Sinclair, 21st Century, Accuracy One is beautiful, etc.
With these you see TIR (not eccentricity), which is showing you how straight your loaded ammo is.

If going with a neck-bender function, I would recommend Premier Accuracy Fli-Rite.
With this you can at least get a TIR reading, and adjust it.

Runout is completely misnomer'd as concentricity. They're not the same thing.
We need straight ammo, which always shows low runout.

 

[Seabeeken]

I dont concern myself with it unless I see a major accuracy problem. One such problem was a Redding sizing die inducing .010 runout. Good quality dies and bullets make it a non issue. IME

 

[asd9055]

I was told this is the best but I need both of my kidneys.

Accuracy One Concentricity Gauge

The Accuracy One Concentricity Gauge measures the internal and external neck runout of a cartridge case as well as seated bullet runout.

bullettipping.com

Come on now, people live decades with just one. They would not take mine, and can't live without my heart!

 

[Old Rooster]

Mikecr what is TIR?

 

[TxPhred]

What are the best options for checking concentricity?

So, here is my experience. I have the Sinclair gauge. It was suggested that I check the "concentricity gauge" with a Machinist Gauge Pin, I purchased one on EBay for $10, .9 x 3" approx. Try and buy one the size of your favorite round, you only need this tool once. If fact, you can use mine.

Why, an F class shooter I follow, whom purchases top of the line equipment found his to be "off" by .002 - .003".

He found this with a Machinists Gauge Pin. I checked mine at it was without error. I could not see the needle move and barely "vibrate?". So good gauge then.

So let's go deeper down this rabbit hole. (Every "perfectly" is another 'drink more or less of the Alice's potion for bigger or smaller' and yes, you will find holes in my logic, that's ok)
- if your dies are perfectly concentric, check
- if your brass has perfect neck wall thickness, check
- you resize, somehow spring back is perfectly consistent, check
- bullet (which also is perfectly concentric) is seated by a perfectly concentric seating stem held perfectly by perfectly concentric threads.

So all this was done perfectly, yes?

Now chamber the round, aim, pull the trigger, bang the neck expands to seal the chamber and, Dammit!!! The neck releases the bullet with how many thousandths of potential tilt and misalignment to the bore!?!?!

The argument will be, well I minimized any potential run out with all my prior perfectly's.
At the end of the day, you do you, but have fun shooting, enjoy your (our?) journey in this wonderful world of shooting, thanks to all who have helped me either directly or indirectly with your posts/experience and knowledge.

Happy New Year to all, I hope you had a wonderful Holiday Season!

 

[TxPhred]

Mikecr what is TIR?

Total Indicated Runout?

 

[Coyote Shadow Tracker]

NECO WORKS GREAT!!!!

 

[Hairtrigger]

I sold my Sinclair unit
I was using it to find a problem that did not exist

 

[Beluebow]

Waste of time IMO....but if you think it matters it matters.