No, thank you. Thats the one thing that has held me back is the availibility of the ammo/ brass. I think if remington would have fielded this cartridge around the time that AA was anouncing their 6.5 grendel, it would have givin it a run for its money. Remington hasent really been behind anything though. They came up with the 6.8, but left it in the dust at the first sign of trouble. Then they introduce the 30 rar, but let it fall away like the 6mm rem. Now, there trying to do the blackout, which is nothing more then a new deviant of the wisper. we'll see how long they stay on board with that one... They have a really good "new ideas" team, a crappy R&D team and a non-existant marketing team. Look at the almighty 700... Even it has been falling by the wayside... Thanks again for the info. I appreciate it! Brian.