147gr eld in 6.5 creedmoor?

[pondskipper]

Anyone tried the new 147gr hornady eld in a 6.5 creedmoor yet? I was thinking about trying them in new Norma cases and using 4831sc but haven't found a single thing for 147 loads in 6.5 creedmoor yet.

 

[gohring3006]

I'm tagging in.
I have a work up
With Relaoder 17 waiting on me to get to the range.
I might pick up a pound of Relaoder 16 and try some IMR 4451.
I have a 22" barrel and hoping to get them to 2700 fps or I don't think they will do better than the 140 ELD or 130 AR match hybrid.

 

[stomp442]

That bullet would really benefit from a larger case and a bit more velocity. That being said you may try contacting Hornady on their recommended start loads for that bullet or start with the starting loads for the 143 and work up with that.

 

[pondskipper]

Contacted both hodgdon and hornady this morning, hodgdon said the 4831sc and superformance are nearly identical in burn rate, the guy at hornady was nice enough to send me a photo of load data for the 6.5cm and 147eld that I will post in just a minute, interestingly enough vvn160 h4831sc and superformance are all right on top of each other in burn rate and that is in order according to the chart I found.

 

[pondskipper]

These velocities are with a 24" barrel so I should be in the 2700+ fps range with a 27" tube gun)

 

[Browninglover1]

I run H4831SC with the 140's and the powder crunches quite a bit when seating the bullets. I imagine with the 147's you'll run out of case capacity before you get the velocities where they could be.

I just bought some of the 147's to try and I'll be trying both 4831SC and 4350. My guess is that 4350 with HBN coated bullets may get me near the 2750 fps mark I would like to hit.

Keep us posted with your results.

 

[pondskipper]

I plan on loading to the maximum length my aics mags will allow for so that may help some with retaining internal case volume, and I will keep everyone posted on results as soon as I decide on a good starting point.

 

[pondskipper]

if you don't mind me asking how much 4831sc are you stuffing behind the 140s?

 

[Browninglover1]

A lot. I sent you a PM.

 

[pondskipper]

Reply sent. Lol no wonder it was crunching when you seated them!

 

[Kansaswoodguy]

I liked 4831sc with 140's for accuracy but the speed was lacking.

 

[Idaho Trecker]

After forgetting my ammo at home yesterday and no more time to run back I made it out today with all the required equipment to actually shoot!!! I'm shooting a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor with a 22" barrel. I was shocked at how long the throat is on these factory rifles. The magazine donest allow them to run that length unless you take a dremel to them (which I did) I can now run a COAL of 2.920"
The loads I tried were all with RL-26, 147 ELD-M, and at a COAL of 2.895" which is .005" off.

The Temp was 35* and pressure 27.09 inHg
Here is what I turned out over the magnetospeed (one shot only for pressure)
46 2627
47 2681
48 2769 (Compressed)
49 2835 (primer cratered and hard bolt lift, Absolute max, Compressed Load)

I will probably back down to 47.5-48.0 grains.
I've had great luck with RL26 and the speeds in this cartridge with 140+ grain bullets since I can seat them out so far.

On another note I ran the 140 ELD-M with RL-26 and COAL of 2.875". This was also just to find max pressure with one shot each.
48 2763
49 2833
50 2887
There was still a little rattle of powder so I could put a bit more in just to see. The pressure wasn't bad even at the 50 grain load.

Still have to run the ballistics to see if I would gain anything in this cartridge running the 147 vs 140 ELD-Ms but just thought I'd put this out there.

 

[Creedmoor shooter]

After forgetting my ammo at home yesterday and no more time to run back I made it out today with all the required equipment to actually shoot!!! I'm shooting a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor with a 22" barrel. I was shocked at how long the throat is on these factory rifles. The magazine donest allow them to run that length unless you take a dremel to them (which I did) I can now run a COAL of 2.920"
The loads I tried were all with RL-26, 147 ELD-M, and at a COAL of 2.895" which is .005" off.

The Temp was 35* and pressure 27.09 inHg
Here is what I turned out over the magnetospeed (one shot only for pressure)
46 2627
47 2681
48 2769 (Compressed)
49 2835 (primer cratered and hard bolt lift, Absolute max, Compressed Load)

I will probably back down to 47.5-48.0 grains.
I've had great luck with RL26 and the speeds in this cartridge with 140+ grain bullets since I can seat them out so far.

On another note I ran the 140 ELD-M with RL-26 and COAL of 2.875". This was also just to find max pressure with one shot each.
48 2763
49 2833
50 2887
There was still a little rattle of powder so I could put a bit more in just to see. The pressure wasn't bad even at the 50 grain load.

Still have to run the ballistics to see if I would gain anything in this cartridge running the 147 vs 140 ELD-Ms but just thought I'd put this out there.

Wow that's cooking for a 22 in barrel. I run a 143 eld-x with 42 grains of rl-17 out of my 26in Criterion at 2875. Stopped there because I shot a .169 moa group and had a ES of 8. I've ran the numbers on an approximate velocity I would get with the 147 eld-my then ran the numbers against a 140 eld-m and the difference wasn't that significant so I ordered 500 of the 140 eld-m.

 

[gohring3006]

good info...