Coyote hunting tips

geo4061 said:

So do ya'll think it is important to stay on stand for 45 minutes? Even if it cuts down the number of sets you can do.

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Absolutely. In a predator control situation you are trying to take out the smartest, wiliest, most efficient critter in the bunch. Those critters will use every trick in the book, and some you've never heard of, to successfully kill their prey or steal it from another critter.
Showing up "fashionably late" is an experienced coyote's tool because they have learned that humans can't sit still for long.
I want to take out the smarter ones first, but it's often the dumber one who shows up first.
It's OK to kill that one, but don't stop calling and remember to sit still. Often, a single shot isn't enough to scare every coyote around, even the crafty ones.

Ed

Not at all of the stands but longer then 10 to 15 minutes per stand on average I spend at least 30 minutes per stand and often yes 45 minutes per stand , when calling for cats it's more like 1 hour minim . I'm not in any rush when I'm calling if I have to hurry a stand then I feel like I shouldn't be calling that day . But then for me it's about killing coyote and problem coyote are the target animals . It's kind of that I feel like I need to adopt the animals line on time ( time has no meaning for animals it does for people only ) we have taught ourselves that we have a time schedule and have to keep moving . We have to get there and then get to another place , making as many stands as we can in a day . I have been with a lot of people that thought they had been at a stand for 20 to 30 minutes when if you actually looked at your watch when you got on stand and again when they left it was only about 10 to 15 minutes their internal clocks were off . By the way my watch has only the crystal that is shinny and it's covered by my sleeve , my sleeves are longer then most people like , so that when I reach upward they still cover it and my wrists I learned that for working in the cold weather , and I'm mindful when I look at it . All movements are made slowly and with a reason when I make them . Watch the animals like cats or even snakes when they are hunting they only rush when it's time to strike and I don't even have to rush at that point . We humans can't tend to let ourselves slow down . I'm going to say something political here and mean no offence to anyone . Look at the North Vietnamize and the Taliban they slowed down and waited for us to tire of being there , we were in a hurry to reach an end point , they knew that in the end time was on their side so mostly just sat back and waited , in my mind good hunting practices to adopt . Each stand has it's own unique circumstances and thus the amount of time given at it varies with them it's all a learned thing as to how they are made and the amount of time spent at them . Time and attention teaches us , reading and others can only give us guide lines as to where we want to start our learning process .

Enjoy our selves when we're calling , there will be days that aren't fruitful and can be frustrating but you should enjoy calling for the most part if you don't you may want to think about finding another sport or job . Dress for the weather be it hot , cold or just the type that you really like to be out in . Here the weather can often become bad in a short amount of time check the forecast for at least 24 hours while at home . Be prepared to spend extended amounts of time away from your truck or other transportation . Have good well fitting foot wear and good socks . If you are comfortable you can set longer with out moving around and travel longer on your feet quieter . Will you need to have food and water with you in your truck or pack for a days worth of being out hunting ? Did you bring extra ammo , I hunted with a guy once that only had 3 rounds with him , and a guy once that lost his spare ammo that isn't fun for anybody . I have left the truck planning on only going a short distance but ended up going a few miles due to other coyote talking and getting closer to them on foot so be prepared in advance for that when it happens . Please let someone else know where you will be heading and when you expect to be back from hunting things can and do happen that we don't plan on .

DSheetz said:

Enjoy our selves when we're calling , there will be days that aren't fruitful and can be frustrating but you should enjoy calling for the most part if you don't you may want to think about finding another sport or job . Dress for the weather be it hot , cold or just the type that you really like to be out in . Here the weather can often become bad in a short amount of time check the forecast for at least 24 hours while at home . Be prepared to spend extended amounts of time away from your truck or other transportation . Have good well fitting foot wear and good socks . If you are comfortable you can set longer with out moving around and travel longer on your feet quieter . Will you need to have food and water with you in your truck or pack for a days worth of being out hunting ? Did you bring extra ammo , I hunted with a guy once that only had 3 rounds with him , and a guy once that lost his spare ammo that isn't fun for anybody . I have left the truck planning on only going a short distance but ended up going a few miles due to other coyote talking and getting closer to them on foot so be prepared in advance for that when it happens . Please let someone else know where you will be heading and when you expect to be back from hunting things can and do happen that we don't plan on .

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Great advice!!!

There's at least three days of food and water in my truck at all times, I have a small Silva compass that stays in my calling day pack, a tourniquet, two Israeli bandages, fire starting materials, a spare knife, and a spare pair of reading glasses.
Having grown up in Alaska, I learned at a VERY early age about telling someone where I would be and when I would be back.

Ed

My brother sent me a recording from his back porch. It sounded like a mighty hoard had over whelmed his property. Now what?

Ed , first aid supplies are a must have at least the bare essentials . As you stated a compass is also very good to have , if it's the liquid filled magnetic type think about not relying on it if your using it close to your rifle or a hunting knife that are metal take your readings far enough away that they won't interfere with it's operation , so you don't end up walking in circles .

Enjoy listening to them they aren't at your home . Ok it's time to get serious the joking is taken care of for now . This time of the year it's the adults and the pups of the year traveling together . The adults may set back and let you call the pups . The pups being young and eager to learn hunting skills will usually respond to animal distress sounds now . A good shot gun is handy now as they often charge in with little caution and more then one at a time . have your howler ready to get on the coyote distress sounds after the first shots so you may get follow up shots . Work on yourself so that you stay calm and collected till after the shooting is done . After you have taken care of pups then you will need to think about the adults how an I going to work on them ? Here I would use my howler and in the afternoon , if I called pups in the morning , I would set up and do two half length howls then two quick barks , wait a few seconds and repeat this . Wait a couple of minutes and do it again . Here where I live that is the way the adults and pups get back together . If you called in the evening do that the next morning . If you are calling for the adults use higher pitched howls as the pups would sound higher pitched if you are trying to get pups after you have taken the adults use lower pitched howls like the adults would make . If you killed the female adult use howls like she would make . if you killed the male use lower pitched howls like he would make . I like to carry off the ones that I killed so the remaining coyote don't find them . Where I live if you set out and listen , after killing coyote and the others find them they will get together and do a mourning group howl session during the night , where the dead coyote is laying . If you carry the dead coyote away they can't find them and will still be looking for them so that you then have a better chance of getting them .

I'm giving away my tricks of the trade here you realize . But then I don't live close to you and I've retired now so it's time to let others do their best at hunting coyote and not make educated coyote to make them pull their hair out , kick rocks and cuss those dumb animals that have out played them at their own game .

No not completely true Dave, you realize GOD sent you to this earth to help others, not just yourself……. You can't fool me, Brother!!!!

I do Reemty J. , but my humor is also as dry as the Red desert . lol

Love a great plan. Thanks. Suggestions always appreciated.

DScheetz.
If you don't mind ( if you haven't already, I haven't read all the post yet) can you describe your equipment, how you set up and how you pick your location.
Do you use a pair of binoculars and you carry them in a case strapped to your chest?

Thanks
Hal

I have a fox pro that is older . I had a couple of johnny stewert ms512calls , that I wore out , but I use hand calls a lot . Bill Austin type howlers critter calls and Randy Anderson hot dog and little dog calls . I like Stinner 10x50 binoculars for my use not in a case but on a chest rig . Calls are in a shirt pocket on a lanyard that I make for them . That keeps them quiet and from freezing up in cold weather They have been drilled and a loop of cord pushed through them and then looped over the call and pulled tight .. The 3/16 " holes are drilled near the end and on the bottom side of the sound chamber so that the call hangs reed down ward but the cord is downward when in use . They are spaced so as to keep them from hitting on each other and two calls per lanyard , so I think about what calls I will be using before I leave the truck by the time of the day , the time of the year and the weather . I mostly use my Winchester 223 for my calling rifle running 55gr. Sierra H.P.B.T. bullets at 2900 F.P.S. M.V. . Over the years I have just kind of figured out where coyote , cats or fox will typically hang out . I like to walk up to a rise and slip over the top in a low spot then get down hill so as not to be sky lined set up in front of a large rock , cut bank , brush , ect. to breakup my out line and in some shade if I can . I want the sun to my back or side not in my eyes , I prefer it to bother them not me but have found that if it bothers them too much they will be hesitant in responding . I like higher ground and calling down into draws , rock piles , trees ect. . I try not to call if the wind gets above 20 mph and want it in my face or from the side . I hide my truck in a low spot , draw or behind a hill and walk quietly to where I will be calling from reading the sign , terrain and animals on my way to the stand . Set up and look and listen for 10-15 minutes before starting to call , start with low volume at first then after 10 minutes or so , on my watch not my internal clock , raise it up for 3-5 minutes and back down again for another 10 minutes . Shut the call off and set look and listen for 10-15 minutes then slip out of the stand quietly the same as I came into the stand . While I'm calling I pay attention to what all the birds , deer and rabbits ect. are telling me they will often tattle on predators that are putting the sneak on you . I have at some time and place covered this before but it's hard to say where or when . Maybe on this post or the ramblings one .

Think of this Dave, my 39 grain SBK in that 204 is 1000 feet per second faster than that 223 load, quite a contrast. Your load may go " pow" when it hits the coyote, my goes " Ka-Pow "
How does that strike your dry red desert humor?