Hiding your stink

WeekendWarrior said:
I made no comment about approaching elk upwind. Not sure why you think I said that or Brian said that. Brian is a respected hunter, and I think his experiences are worth hearing. Reducing my scent helps me get closer animals, period. Ive been doing this for a couple decades and I notice the difference. The assumptions you are making about me, and the wrong context you are placing on my comment, says more about you than it does about myself or Brian Call.
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And I guess if you ask enough people anybody can be considered a respected and experienced hunter. Brian made his name on kifarucast as the guy that didn't know anything and asked lots of questions. He left kifarucast after the falling out and started his own podcast where he immediately became the expert. If you listened to the end of kifarucast and the beginning of his new podcast it was pretty obvious he wasn't experienced. I'm still trying to figure out how many elk he missed and wounded with his bow that last year on kifarucast. They kept hinting at it but never gave the real number. Pretty sure it might have taken 2 hands to count the misses and wounds from all of his experience!
 
WeekendWarrior said:
I made no comment about approaching elk upwind. Not sure why you think I said that or Brian said that. Brian is a respected hunter, and I think his experiences are worth hearing. Reducing my scent helps me get closer animals, period. Ive been doing this for a couple decades and I notice the difference. The assumptions you are making about me, and the wrong context you are placing on my comment, says more about you than it does about myself or Brian Call.
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Reducing it doesn't matter. If you haven't eliminated it, then you will be sniffed out if you get the wind wrong.

I'm curious how much hunting some for the members on here actually do. About mile 1 into the opening day hunt, most guys have from-unda-cheese starting to develop, swamp-***, arm pits are sweaty and slimy whole back is covered in sweat from your pack, etc.

Guys, scent stuff doesn't work for western hunting. I'm 100% sure you guys aren't deodorizing your ***'s, your backs, your breath, your shoes, or any other crevice one mile in. Anything you put on, goes away just as quick. Deer, elk, beavers, turkeys, alligators, and chupacabras are going to smell you.

Get the wind right. The end.

Baby wipes and deodorant in camp is for you and to practice good hygiene. To prevent crotch rot, antimicrobial underwear.
 
Ucsdryder said:
And I guess if you ask enough people anybody can be considered a respected and experienced hunter. Brian made his name on kifarucast as the guy that didn't know anything and asked lots of questions. He left kifarucast after the falling out and started his own podcast where he immediately became the expert. If you listened to the end of kifarucast and the beginning of his new podcast it was pretty obvious he wasn't experienced. I'm still trying to figure out how many elk he missed and wounded with his bow that last year on kifarucast. They kept hinting at it but never gave the real number. Pretty sure it might have taken 2 hands to count the misses and wounds from all of his experience!
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That was years ago at this point. It doesn't reduce what he has done since. Besides, after teaming up with Lampers he is doing a good job, and I like hearing what he has to say about his wilderness hunts since that is also how I tend to hunt. Not that many people do it. I find it interesting he has noticed he can get closer to animals when he manages his scent more, over the years, I have noticed the same thing. I don't get why this is a point of contention?
 
WeekendWarrior said:
That was years ago at this point. It doesn't reduce what he has done since. Besides, after teaming up with Lampers he is doing a good job, and I like hearing what he has to say about his wilderness hunts since that is also how I tend to hunt. Not that many people do it. I find it interesting he has noticed he can get closer to animals when he manages his scent more, over the years, I have noticed the same thing. I don't get why this is a point of contention?
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It's pretty simple. If an animal winds you then they are going to run away whether you smell or don't smell. If they don't wind you there's a good chance you're going to get super close. The point of contention is that it doesn't matter how much you stink you have. An Animal's nose is good enough to pick up tiniest single molecules of ecent. So you're either upwind or downwind and therefore stink only matters to the guys sitting in camp with you.

A guy with 5 years of experience shouldn't be considered a well respected whatever. He's globbed onto some guys that have hunted a long time. He's probably learning a lot! I went in the frank church wilderness 26 miles on a 10 day elk hunt at age 10. I guess I should have considered myself a well respected hunter! ;)
 
I watched a test of scent control methods once. It was canines, not pray animals, but here's the jist. They had a control being a guy that just had his normal day. They used the k-9 dog training facility where they have a big area with a bunch of man sized boxes. The guy gets in the box and the dog has to smell him out and identify the box. This was timed. They added scent control methods layer by layer until the guy had every scent control method available used. the dog never hitched and the times were all basically identical. Impressive dogs. Very unimpressive scent elimination. Rotate your clothes drying them out as often as possible, clean yourself up daily,(baby wipes or whatever) and get used to your own smell.
 
dfanonymous said:
Reducing it doesn't matter. If you haven't eliminated it, then you will be sniffed out if you get the wind wrong.

I'm curious how much hunting some for the members on here actually do. About mile 1 into the opening day hunt, most guys have from-unda-cheese starting to develop, swamp-***, arm pits are sweaty and slimy whole back is covered in sweat from your pack, etc.

Guys, scent stuff doesn't work for western hunting. I'm 100% sure you guys aren't deodorizing your ***'s, your backs, your breath, your shoes, or any other crevice one mile in. Anything you put on, goes away just as quick. Deer, elk, beavers, turkeys, alligators, and chupacabras are going to smell you.

Get the wind right. The end.

Baby wipes and deodorant in camp is for you and to practice good hygiene. To prevent crotch rot, antimicrobial underwear.
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I've guided 32 years archery elk and hunt deer and elk exclusively with a bow. I also have and still do hunt wolves and coyotes with a bow. I can't tell you how many elk I've had in bow range during that time. I've touched a few. Made a mistake grabbing a deers leg once too. I used to record the number of bulls within range and my best year was 68. It was 2016. Haven't been anywhere close to that since. Usually 10-15 a season is normal. Maybe I stink more than in 2016....... maybe I can't read the wind. Heck some people believe the right camo pattern makes you invisible and the internet makes you an expert. Go figure. In the end, stay down wind and don't move at the wrong time. If you don't like they way your stinky @$$ smells, do something about it. You never know when some horny old mountain woman might get frisky with ya. Be prepared.
 
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Quintus said:
I watched a test of scent control methods once. It was canines, not pray animals, but here's the jist. They had a control being a guy that just had his normal day. They used the k-9 dog training facility where they have a big area with a bunch of man sized boxes. The guy gets in the box and the dog has to smell him out and identify the box. This was timed. They added scent control methods layer by layer until the guy had every scent control method available used. the dog never hitched and the times were all basically identical. Impressive dogs. Very unimpressive scent elimination. Rotate your clothes drying them out as often as possible, clean yourself up daily,(baby wipes or whatever) and get used to your own smell.
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That's awesome. I think it's hard for us to comprehend their smell sometimes. I wonder what they think when you crop dust the living room.
 
Straight Shooter said:
BrentM said:
In the end, stay up wind

By my way of thinking that is incorrect. I don't want to be upwind of an animal, I want to be downwind. Please correct me if I am wrong or misunderstood.
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Keep in mind I did say maybe I can't read the wind…. Seems I can't type well either. It should be down wind, yes. I do wear fancy clothes that eliminate the scent tho. Ha ha
 
BrentM said:
I've guided 32 years archery elk and hunt deer and elk exclusively with a bow. I also have and still do hunt wolves and coyotes with a bow. I can't tell you how many elk I've had in bow range during that time. I've touched a few. Made a mistake grabbing a deers leg once too. I used to record the number of bulls within range and my best year was 68. It was 2016. Haven't been anywhere close to that since. Usually 10-15 a season is normal. Maybe I stink more than in 2016....... maybe I can't read the wind. Heck some people believe the right camo pattern makes you invisible and the internet makes you an expert. Go figure. In the end, stay up wind and don't move at the wrong time. If you don't like they way your stinky @$$ smells, do something about it. You never know when some horny old mountain woman might get frisky with ya. Be prepared.
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You're rambling. 👺😈
 
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