I did a ton of testing 4831sc vs r26 same grains with same bullet never noticed that. Will have to compare felt recoil next time. I have about two pounds of fairy dust still so will be awhile for my fall back to 4831... Nothing is going to argue with 140 ab's at 3200
I haven't used the hybrids but I do use regular VLDs, both 168 and 180. I use RL17. I get 3000 with 180s and can get 3100+ with 168s but I don't go higher because it shoots great and match limit is 3100.