My "overkill" was always a 300 wby mag... Right up until I had shoulder surgery... Ouch!!! Age catches up with ya in a hurry... Went to an AR in 6.8 spc 24" (130gr psp) and a 5.56 24" (75gr gold dot) for the bulk of my hunting now... I'm now looking at building a decent 6.5 grendel.