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Since you're shooting the AI, you ought to check out the /270 Gibbs. I was first introduced to it on a deer hunt in Utah in 1969.
Thank you for the recommendation. I did look into the .270 Gibbs, however I was a little more familiar with Ackley's line and went with the .270 AI. And.....presently with all that I have invested in the .270AI rifles, dies, and range time I couldn't afford going into another cartridge. I like what I get for performance out of the .270AI. For me it was built for whitetail deer hunting, however if I win the lottery it would be nice to go on a mule deer, antelope hunt.
 
Thank you for the recommendation. I did look into the .270 Gibbs, however I was a little more familiar with Ackley's line and went with the .270 AI. And.....presently with all that I have invested in the .270AI rifles, dies, and range time I couldn't afford going into another cartridge. I like what I get for performance out of the .270AI. For me it was built for whitetail deer hunting, however if I win the lottery it would be nice to go on a mule deer, antelope hunt.
If I get back to Colorado for a reasonable amount of time this year, and can get tags, I plan on going on both. I've been visiting family and grandkids most of the time. But I live in Colorado, and have deer and antelope permissions on some ranches. I mostly use the 30-06 or the 25-06 for antelope. I hunt Area 110.
 
You average what? 10-15 posts an hour for 16hrs a day here on this forum? Mr. 18K posts. Somehow you got the time, maybe not the priority to actually get off your condescending high horse to go actually shoot something.
Do you know why he gets to bed so late? He works a regular job and goes to college after hours. I've done that, and was up all hours doing homework, while juggling a family and their priorities. I am surprised he has time to eat, much less take a day out to go to the range. You might want to back off a little on the arrogance at this point, and actually read what he wrote about what time he has lately, and what he is doing.
 
I don't think they will become obsolete. The only caveat will be if they try to ban lead from hunting bullets. Then all bets are off. That is why we saw some of the major ammunition companies investing in lead free ammo. If we're not careful we'll price ourselves out of being able to hunt.
I think that's the intention of some of the Fed. guys, especially the politicians.
 
I have read this similar sentiment a few times by people that hunt with low BC bullets, and I can't wrap my head around it.
Yeah it's weird. I don't even care about BC when I got a bullet that keeps killing things impressively great!
Even if your max self imposed range on game is 500 yards, why wouldn't you shoot the highest BC bullet you can?
Again, BC is a moot number when the lethality is greater than a BC number. Not that I don't understand BC. I shoot a very high BC bullet in my ELR 1 mile rig. All it has to do is tickle a piece of steel though.
A stiff wind can move a bullet a material amount even at 300 yards.
Yes Sir.
Shooting across canyons where you get swirling and inconsistent winds or even flat land where wind gusts can be 30 or 40 mph on a good day.
This is why I have my self-imposed range limit. There are no range flags and canyon ground is terrible for reading wind. All the mesquite trees are stiff/still and don't give an accurate wind call. All those unknowns are easier to handle at my range set.
Just seems silly to hunt with a low BC bullet when there are so many proven high bc hunting bullets on the market.
Here's where the buzz word, egocentrism, can explain your wonderment of my decisions.
 
I think that's the intention of some of the Fed. guys, especially the politicians.
They banned lead in shotguns for ducks/geese. California banned it in all hunting. I am sure the rest is coming...just don't know how soon
 
Probably them bubbas that shoot game at longer ranges than I will attempt. BC plays a factor way out there. My long range hunting is a 500yd poke. BC consideration within this/my range takes last chair to lethality.

I learned this word 20yrs ago called, "Egocentrism" basically you think everyone should act according to your world view and not take into account others. So yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly!
Back to the thread, this bullet might be good. I'll be watching it, especially if they come out with a 165 grain or so, and it will stabilize in a 1 in 10 twist barrel. I still think that the Speer, Nosler BT and the Sierra Gameking meet most if not all my hunting requirements in the rifles, calibers and muzzle velocities I shoot, including the Whelen, -06 and 300WM, out to 1,000 yards, though. And yes, I've shot the .35 Whelen to 1,000 and a little further. The Speer 250gr at 8,000ft is going over 1350fps and hits inside moa. It retains about 1,000ftlbs at that range. You aim a little higher, but it makes a bigger hole both entering and leaving. The Sierra 225 grain isn't bad either. It makes up for the lower BC by a higher velocity of about 80fps. I hunt in the Rockies, hence the altitude caviat.
 
NE Lower is pretty good. We have a lot of hunters/shooters up this way. We have Sage International a few miles down the road and machine shop in town that makes gas blocks and AR bolts.
I'll go w John. If he says NE Mich is Free. Its so. Still that leaves the SE.......
 
Nosler partition bullets started their life in the shooting world in 1947. I still have some 140gr, .264 caliber bullets that I used in my 6.5 Remington magnum, at the then time Remington 600 with the vent rib on the barrel. I shot a 150 pound doe at something like 286 paces, frontal shot, destroyed that doe's insides; DRT!!! The bullets that I have show the lathe tool marks on them. I suspect that Nosler used a screw-machine with a skive tool to make their jackets. I'm still working on the Hammer bullets that I got for my last bear hunt in my Whelen, not about to change until I try the Hammers and then go from there. This is a good thread, glad it got posted.
What bullet weight, what velocity do you get, and how much do they cost? Is your Whelen a standard or an AI? I shoot two 35Whelens one with a 24" and one with a 26" tube. Both are less than 1" rifles at 100 yards with 5 shot groups. Both are easily capable of hitting deer at over 800 yards at sea level, and hold inside moa at 1,000 at or above 5,000ft above sea level. I'd like to try the Barnes 225 grain bullet in them, too.
 
I will never be out of line posting my opinions. I know you and Feenix are bros, so I didn't expect you to eliminate your bias on the matter. If you would do due diligence on my posts and contributions to this site, you would understand I am here to learn, share, and opine.

The problem is some people *think* they are contributing, when they are really just taking away from the discussion.

Read more, post less. Show some respect, and be humble.

"I don't know what I don't know"

Just my opinion.
 
I have read this similar sentiment a few times by people that hunt with low BC bullets, and I can't wrap my head around it. Even if your max self imposed range on game is 500 yards, why wouldn't you shoot the highest BC bullet you can? A stiff wind can move a bullet a material amount even at 300 yards. Shooting across canyons where you get swirling and inconsistent winds or even flat land where wind gusts can be 30 or 40 mph on a good day. Just seems silly to hunt with a low BC bullet when there are so many proven high bc hunting bullets on the market.
I shoot low BC bullets for practice because they're inexpensive, and higher for hunting, if I can. As to drift and drop inside 400 yards, the old CorLokt 180 grain with a BC of .385 drifts only a couple of inches more in a 10 mile an hour wind than the much higher BC Sierra game king. I used to shoot them all the time, when I could get them at 500 for $125. I didn't hunt them past about 300 yards, though. I really like the Nosler Ballistic Tips for hunting, and the Hornaday 178 gr. Match for practice, because they're close in load data, bc and flight characteristics. I also shoot the Speer 180 gr. BTs because of their high BC and low cost. The Sierras are a little higher, but also high BC with the 180 grain, almost matching the Nosler Ballistic Tips, so I can practice with either of these bullets and expect to shoot to within 2 or 3 inches of drop for the Nosler out to around 800 yards. The Speer will actually be flatter. I'm retired Army and a retired NCO, so cost is probably more important to me, and I don't spend much on really high-dollar components as a result. But if I win the lottery, all bets are off.
 
The problem is some people *think* they are contributing, when they are really just taking away from the discussion.

Read more, post less. Show some respect, and be humble.

"I don't know what I don't know"

Just my opinion.
I have got to agree with you on this one, in my mind an opinion is formed after a person has some experience with said product, a thought which means nothing except to the person having it really is no contribution. I dont mean this in every situation but when talking about a product I do believe it applies
 
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