A message from Hodgdon Powder

[Hard rock]

I agree. I'm not convinced something else isn't a play here. So you are telling me that every powder, primer, bullet manufacturer is operating at full capacity some even 24 hours a day and they can't support the market?

I ain't buying that.

We Texans think alike x2

 

[gpo1956]

Supply and demand. Quit demanding it and the supply will catch up.

 

[The Oregonian]

I know this is an old update, but I'm fairly certain that a company in the position of hodgdon could completely fund an expansion on election years alone. It doesn't matter if it sets idle for 3 years, if you make enough money in 1/4 years to make a decent profit over the 4 years, it's worth it. There is a pile of money out there to be made on election years and not a single manufacturer is capitalizing on it. If there was an 18 wheeler load of primers at my LGS they could sell them at $10 over normal price and the trailer would be empty in a week.

What makes you fairly certain? If 'not a single manufacturer' is pursuing it, what does that tell you?

 

[Kimber7man]

Supply and demand. Quit demanding it and the supply will catch up.

Supply was way up when demand was down. Now supply is up even higher but demand is through the roof.

If I were a manufacturer no way would I go invest tens or hundreds of millions on expansion. Expansion would take forever and cost double to triple what it should. And who knows what this administration and Congress will do?

 

[gpo1956]

Asking companies to invest in new manufacturing facilities in todays climate is not reasonable. But hoarding is also unreasonable.

 

[Mike D Texas]

So what or how much is considered "hoarding"?

 

[FEENIX]

Supply was way up when demand was down. Now supply is up even higher but demand is through the roof.

If I were a manufacturer no way would I go invest tens or hundreds of millions on expansion. Expansion would take forever and cost double to triple what it should. And who knows what this administration and Congress will do?

Exactly! The return on investment on capital equipment and building (expansion) will take a very long time.

 

[FEENIX]

So what or how much is considered "hoarding"?

Wait for it...

 

[The Oregonian]

So what or how much is considered "hoarding"?

When you have more than you need it is hoarding. When I have more than I need it is just protecting myself against the next shortage.

 

[FEENIX]

When you have more than you need it is hoarding. When I have more than I need it is just protecting myself against the next shortage.

So if I plan for the life of my barrels considered hoarding? When I have a rifle build, I acquire all the components (brass, primer, bullets, powders, etc.) for the rifle's life.

Life is all about preparation; how one prepares for volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity in life or challenges ahead are individualistic.

As @Shane Lindsey noted, he is simply feeding what he has. But for the other side of the spectrum, three 8-pounders are hoarding. Frankly, he (or anyone else) does not need to justify his purchase to the ill-prepared.

IBTL!

 

[The Oregonian]

So if I plan for the life of my barrels considered hoarding? When I have a rifle build, I acquire all the components (brass, primer, bullets, powders, etc.) for the rifle's life.

Life is all about preparation; how one prepares for volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity in life or challenges ahead are individualistic.

As @Shane Lindsey noted, he is simply feeding what he has. But for the other side of the spectrum, three 8-pounders are hoarding. Frankly, he (or anyone else) does not need to justify his purchase to the ill-prepared.

IBTL!

My comment was 100% sarcasm.

 

[FEENIX]

My comment was 100% sarcasm.

L L! Mine is not, and I stand by on my comment to another similar thread ...

I never leave my local gun store empty-handed https://www.longrangehunting.com/th...the-local-gun-store-empty-handed-rule.255740/ and do NOT care what others think.

The beauty of reloading is the ability to work with what you have - adapt and overcome. I have purchased powders that I do not usually use but know others who trade them for what suits my needs. There are lots of members that are doing the same.

It is funny that those that prepare for the worst are all labeled hoarders.

 

[Mattbowen61990]

What makes you fairly certain? If 'not a single manufacturer' is pursuing it, what does that tell you?

They are content, profit margin is fine, they literally have nobody to answer to. Investors are happy, share holders are happy, they are making great money, they are content. Think about where most of the raw materials come from, not the US for sure. But there is no way that a demand of 300% at the current times wouldn't fund an expansion. I don't think people realize how fast powder flies off of the shelf, all of that powder is making a profit at each level of sale, but nobody has it. Right now if you had it, you could sell it. Most of those manufacturers are stuck waiting on raw components from other countries, which is partially why they cant meet demand. I think this whole premise is BS, but for things like lead it's almost a must for the US to source globally. This is what hinders the manufacturers from making the dive into expansion. Not knowing if they can feed the plant with supplies from other countries, same issue car manufacturers are running into with chips.

 

[CoastalHunter]

Comes down to they realized they can't control gun ownership, too much pushback….. liberal solution, take the ammo away, they will let you buy all the guns you want, you will just have to throw them at each other. Our enemies are in our own country, and they play dirty