What bullet for 338 rum for deer hunting under 300 yards?

[Deleted member 115360]

You first above statement is fact. You will see less meat damage with a 225 gr accubond out of a 338 ultra mag that you will with a 243 and 100 gr bullet of same make or a 160 gr out of a 7mag! seen it, done it, read the book met the author... your being ridiculous by saying your gonna blow quarters off the deer with a 338! obviously anyone that says that has never shot a deer with any 338 !!!

Nope, I've never shot a deer with a .338. I have a .340 Weatherby, but I have 50 rifles that are much better suited to thin skinned light boned deer. I've killed over a thousand of them, with everything from a stick to a 300 wm. Arrows, muzzleloaders, trucks, you name it..

Funny enough, in my considerable experience, the smaller the bullet, (both diameter and weight), the less meat will be wrecked. I've killed hundreds with a 270, and hundreds with a 300wm. There is absolutely no doubt in the world that the 300wm caused significantly more meat damage. Now I shoot them with 6.5 creed or 6.5 prc, or a dozen other things, and they do less damage than the 270 did. The hydrostatic shock causes massive tissue damage. The formula for energy is (speed squared x weight), and you don't have to take my word for it, but if you were able to perfectly replicate the same shot with different bullets, science would conclusively prove your theory to be absolutely incorrect..

There are other formulas to calculating terminal ballistics out there, and some of them calculate frontal diameter. None of the formulas agree with you..

 

[Calvin45]

Bullet construction, and then velocity, is a heck of a lot more relevant to this question of meat destruction than the overall power of the cartridge.

absolutely deer hunting with a 338 rum (or any rum) is overkill but to me overkill is a stupid word and certainly beats underkill. There's nothing saying it has to result in ruining an entire animal.

the worst meat damage I've ever seen on a whitetail was done with THE quintessential whitetail cartridge and load; my 270 Winchester with 130 grain soft points. My 300 win mag with 220s was faaaar less violent.

 

[Calvin45]

And there's a reason some have referred to the 220 swift as "the blender"

 

[sierracharlie338]

And there's a reason some have referred to the 220 swift as "the blender"

I heard another round (specific bullet weight/cartridge combo) called that. It was in a different capacity, I'm sure.

 

[Deleted member 115360]

Bullet construction, and then velocity, is a heck of a lot more relevant to this question of meat destruction than the overall power of the cartridge.

absolutely deer hunting with a 338 rum (or any rum) is overkill but to me overkill is a stupid word and certainly beats underkill. There's nothing saying it has to result in ruining an entire animal.

the worst meat damage I've ever seen on a whitetail was done with THE quintessential whitetail cartridge and load; my 270 Winchester with 130 grain soft points. My 300 win mag with 220s was faaaar less violent.

You're right of course, but you forgot shot placement. Shot placement is the number one factor in meat loss, followed by bullet construction, then velocity.

For this comparison, I assume we are assuming all those things are equal. When the man says that a larger bullet damages less meat, I take it that all of those things will be the same for the comparison.

 

[MagnumManiac]

The bigger the bullet, the less damage it does?

I'm not sure how you came upon that idea, but I'm not going to try to change your mind. Hang out with your Wang out my friend..

Hang out with my Wang out my friend????

Firstly, what experience do you have with large calibres?
Sounds to me like very little.

The bigger the bullet and the LESSER the velocity almost always produces LESS blood shot meat. I will take a large calibre bullet at reasonable speed over a small calibre bullet doing very fast velocity to preserve meat any day of the week.
You are speaking BS.

I think you play with your WANG too much.

Hate to burst your bubble, but there is NO SUCH THING AS HYDROSTATIC SHOCK!
There is such a thing as CAVITATION, this is what bullets do in tissue.

Cheers.

 

[Calvin45]

You're right of course, but you forgot shot placement. Shot placement is the number one factor in meat loss, followed by bullet construction, then velocity.

For this comparison, I assume we are assuming all those things are equal. When the man says that a larger bullet damages less meat, I take it that all of those things will be the same for the comparison.

I figured that went without saying.

 

[Deleted member 115360]

"Lesser the velocity"?

I don't think you have much experience with the English language.

 

[Deleted member 115360]

How hard did you have to fight autocorrect to post that?

 

[Wy Will]

All the way out to 300 yards!!!!! You might need more gun for that!

All jokes aside, I wouldn't bring a 338 RUM for that distance on deer. That's just me though.

 

[Elk Hunter 338]

I wanna hear more about the facts and formulas from people that have never once fired a 338 cal bullet at any deer but yet have endless knowledge on the subject.. by all means please continue OB 1

 

[Calvin45]

"Lesser the velocity"?

I don't think you have much experience with the English language.

There's nothing linguistically incorrect about this particular wording. I don't get the overall attitude here. What's your problem exactly?

 

[BAKPAKR]

300 gr Berger. No meat damage.

I don't often use the 338 on anything other than targets, but it is fun to take it out for deer ever once in a while. If I want to hunt out West with a 338, I do need to get something lighter.

 

[Calvin45]

This is the same reason a lot of hunters love the 375hh as an all purpose hunting round. Way more power than needed for some purposes and yet not at all inappropriate or gratuitously violent. Emphatic killer that doesn't wreck a lot of meat.

again, I've never played with .338 anything but I've shot deer with with 180 btips, 220 round nose, and 225 eld m out of a 300 win and none of these have caused carnage and wastage the way a plain old interlock or PowerPoint out of my 270 has on numerous occasions.

also the 243 and 30-30 are about the same energetically, but the 30-30 is far more meat friendly.