No more Wood?
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Kmccord
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Perrysbell, how do you like that Boyd's stock? I have a Ruger M77 Mark II I plan to re-barrel next year and was looking at the at one stock and several others they have, but they mentioned the barrel channel will only accept a factory barrel?? What contour do you have, that doesn't look like a factory barrel for sure
Thanks
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I love the look of a beautiful wood stock myself
But I also loved the versatility of the new chassis designs... Hence my creation
But I also loved the versatility of the new chassis designs... Hence my creation
TexasSportsman
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It takes someone with knowledge and effort to grade wood. This person may travel all over the US and possibly the world seeking the finest grain wood.
The wood is cut into blanks for a given firearm. The best wood is separated for higher-end firearms all the lower grade for lower prices.
Custom made firearms like the ones made in the UK, the wood is hand-shaped and hand carved. Working with wood is a very labor-intensive process.
Polymer stocks or plastics stocks are made by a method called molded injected plastic.
Polymer pellets are melted and injected into several molds simultaneously to create the stocks. Several hundred stocks an hour can be produced in this way. Mass production bring down the cost of a product.
Are wood stocks bad for firearms? Of course not wood stocks have been used in firearms for hundreds and hundreds of years.
The reason for the transition to polymers stocks is partly due to environmentalists who are pushing to save the forest and save the trees. Manufacturers also realize that mass production of plastic stocks eliminates the high cost of producing wood stocks.
So how do you sell it to the hunters who are used to wood stocks on their firearms?
By selling them the idea that plastic stocks are lighter, reduce weight, resistant to scratches, nicks, dents and that you would get on a wood stock.
And you introduce camouflage patterns on the plastic stock which eventually creep to the receiver and barrel.
Do we really need camouflage on rifles? No. It's just another selling point to trap the unsuspecting hunter into spending more.
I have photos of my dad's side of the family hunting in New Mexico during the 1940s and 50s. None of them have camouflage clothing or rifles and none of them have plastic stocks on the rifles.
The manufacturers are making a fortune on rifles with polymer stock because polymer stocks are extremely cheap to make yet they're charging us the same amount of money if not more for the same product.
Polymer pellets for rifle stock is a $1.35/ton. So how many rifle stocks do you suppose they can make with 2000 pounds of polymer. And with a method of molded injected plastics how many rifle stocks do you think they can make on a given shift?
Personal preference.
The wood is cut into blanks for a given firearm. The best wood is separated for higher-end firearms all the lower grade for lower prices.
Custom made firearms like the ones made in the UK, the wood is hand-shaped and hand carved. Working with wood is a very labor-intensive process.
Polymer stocks or plastics stocks are made by a method called molded injected plastic.
Polymer pellets are melted and injected into several molds simultaneously to create the stocks. Several hundred stocks an hour can be produced in this way. Mass production bring down the cost of a product.
Are wood stocks bad for firearms? Of course not wood stocks have been used in firearms for hundreds and hundreds of years.
The reason for the transition to polymers stocks is partly due to environmentalists who are pushing to save the forest and save the trees. Manufacturers also realize that mass production of plastic stocks eliminates the high cost of producing wood stocks.
So how do you sell it to the hunters who are used to wood stocks on their firearms?
By selling them the idea that plastic stocks are lighter, reduce weight, resistant to scratches, nicks, dents and that you would get on a wood stock.
And you introduce camouflage patterns on the plastic stock which eventually creep to the receiver and barrel.
Do we really need camouflage on rifles? No. It's just another selling point to trap the unsuspecting hunter into spending more.
I have photos of my dad's side of the family hunting in New Mexico during the 1940s and 50s. None of them have camouflage clothing or rifles and none of them have plastic stocks on the rifles.
The manufacturers are making a fortune on rifles with polymer stock because polymer stocks are extremely cheap to make yet they're charging us the same amount of money if not more for the same product.
Polymer pellets for rifle stock is a $1.35/ton. So how many rifle stocks do you suppose they can make with 2000 pounds of polymer. And with a method of molded injected plastics how many rifle stocks do you think they can make on a given shift?
Personal preference.
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Stellar Tiger Stripping!!
That is one piece of fine art!!!!
mindcrime
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How did you find the NM action??? I'm working on a 1903 currently, but I've never even seen a NM action offered. ALSO whose 3 position safety is that??? Not trying to sideline the thread; I'm just curious!
wilkup
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A high grade walnut stock with some good figure in it and quality bluing job will never go out of style. That said, I don't feel nearly as bad beating up a cerakoted, composite stocked rifle in the rocks. My 1911 wears wood grips and my leverguns have all been refinished to show off their beautiful walnut furniture. I bought a XX walnut blank from Richardson's a few years back and put together I bolt "Traditional" gun with a few modern twists like CF bedding to drop the weight down a bit.
Pics of a couple below.
Pics of a couple below.
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While I succumbed to synthetics well over a decade ago, I also succumbed to the idea of a firearm being a tool of "beauty". Since, I only think of my synthetics as only a tool.
I still get that rush with my well used Flintlocks!!!
I still get that rush with my well used Flintlocks!!!
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I own and have owed several HS stocks with a manners. I really like them but here lately I've been fond of classic wood stocked rifles. My laminate stocks are stiffer than my hs or manners stock. I have two walnut stocks that are epoxy sealed & painted. They are quite stiff as well. Most people think they are a fiberglass stock when they look at them. They are all bedded. As far as their accuracy.... I can not differentiate the difference between a well bedded wood vs fiberglass stock. If I'm going hunting in the pouring rain, I will leave the wood stocked rifles at home. Let me back up, If its pouring rain, I'm probably gonna stay home as well. If it might rain, I would take a fiberglass stocked rifle or possibly one of the epoxied wood stocked rifles.
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ndking1126
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Buy what you want.. no problem either way. I think laminate has definitely replaced wood, but theres no reason you should avoid them. I like the aluminum bedding block that doesnt come in wood, but a proper bedding job will make wood or laminate just as good.
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My primary hunting rifle these days is Cooper Model 56. Wood!
