Call the gunsmith and ask before you start torquing on it. Hope it is just very well blended. If he cashed your check he will take your call.
Screw on vs. Ported muzzle brake
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If indeed he ported the barrel, it may be that it was the only way for flush appearance. The barrel may have been so skinny that threading it would have resulted in the brake diameter being larger than the barrel. Did you ask him for it to be flush? If so, that may have been the only way for it to be flush.
Ranger Rick
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Check back with your gunsmith. He's the pro. You can also Google the "pros and cons of porting a rifle barrel" I know a few hunters who have had their rifles ported, never heard any complaints
Good luckIn most situations, I like a longer barrel. The standard xbolt wsm is 23". The T3 wsm is 24" I had a 270wsm T3 and a 26" xbolt 270wsm. If you end up not liking it, sell your barrel and rebarrel with a longer 270wsm or a 6.5 saum. I feel your pain though, its a downer when things don't turn out like you expected. It seems like you should have got a call before a different than planned modification was done.
Yeah, really seems strange he didn't ask what brake you wanted. There are so many options now-a-days with big differences in cost and performance. There are still a few old timers around that only did the Mag-na-port or Pendelton style cut ports. Is your smith a seasoned citizen?
Regardless of the performance merits I'd be ****ed if I was expecting threaded muzzle and got a ported muzzle instead. Seems like maybe there was some miscommunication. You wanted threaded and said ported or muzzle brake. I agree with another poster above who was surprised that when you said you wanted a muzzle brake that the next logical question wasn't "Which one?".
Yeah, porting seems a little old school. Honestly, it seems like it would be more set up work also.
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I don't think he did a bad job, shorter barrel was the fact that bugs me the most. Gunsmith is really good reputable person.
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I asked for the one that it can be as flush as it can. Same model of the gun was done for friend of mine and the same flush fit was done but added screw on brake.
Oh he made it flush as can be alright. I am just wondering if there was difference of description between your rifle and your friends. If he said threaded and you said ported, or muzzle brake, those may mean different things to you, your buddy, and the smith. Again, I think it strange that there wasn't clarification made before the work was performed. Or the smith didnt send you a copy of a work order and say "Give this a look over and make sure I got everything right that you want done to your rifle" before he started making chips.
I'm not saying that the work he actually did was good or bad, I'm sure it's probably great. Just that if what you thought you were getting and what you actually got weren't the same thing then there was some miscommunication somewhere along the way.
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I never specified screwed but flush same as my friends was done.
We went two pages over what was discussed or not, am I sure if it is not screwed on and so on...
Is there a disadvantages that we can discuss
in having a ported brake recessed back.
I am more interested in muzzle velocity loss, affects on accuracy and so on. Ability to remove it is not really some big advantage on a screw on brake for me. As I said probably twice till now barrel being shorter now due to internal crown is most of my concerns.
I don't wanna be rude and appreciate the responses but really think that I can not change much at this point.
There was miscommunication of some sort for sure. However no point crying over spilled milk.
What are some of the things that can help, obviously wont get rid of the gun or change the barrel now. Did anyone experienced trouble in reloading or such issues, shooting in a rain as I heard that might be an issue as well.
That's something we should discuss and that's what I asked opinion on the forum for...
We went two pages over what was discussed or not, am I sure if it is not screwed on and so on...
Is there a disadvantages that we can discuss
in having a ported brake recessed back.I am more interested in muzzle velocity loss, affects on accuracy and so on. Ability to remove it is not really some big advantage on a screw on brake for me. As I said probably twice till now barrel being shorter now due to internal crown is most of my concerns.
I don't wanna be rude and appreciate the responses but really think that I can not change much at this point.
There was miscommunication of some sort for sure. However no point crying over spilled milk.
What are some of the things that can help, obviously wont get rid of the gun or change the barrel now. Did anyone experienced trouble in reloading or such issues, shooting in a rain as I heard that might be an issue as well.
That's something we should discuss and that's what I asked opinion on the forum for...
codyadams
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Your questions are simple in nature. You usually loose 20-50 fps per inch or barrel depending on cartridge, powder, bullet, barrel, and many other variable factors. Do the math to figure that out.
Rain or other precipitation is not an issue more than a standard brake or really a bare muzzle for that matter, not sure why one would think it would be. Tape it if there is inclimate weather. Simple solution.
If it is in fact back bored and ported instead of a well blended threaded brake (you haven't answered that) accuracy will be no different for either, as long as the smith crowned it properly. That is the same for a threaded brake, ported brake, or bare muzzle.
If done properly, the only difference from a radial screw on brake and a back bored and ported radial type brake will be one screws off for easier maintenance and one doesn't. Also the consideration that if too small of thread diameter is used for a given bore diameter, there is the possibility of muzzle belling with a threaded muzzle, where as that will not be an issue with a back bored and ported muzzle.
Rain or other precipitation is not an issue more than a standard brake or really a bare muzzle for that matter, not sure why one would think it would be. Tape it if there is inclimate weather. Simple solution.
If it is in fact back bored and ported instead of a well blended threaded brake (you haven't answered that) accuracy will be no different for either, as long as the smith crowned it properly. That is the same for a threaded brake, ported brake, or bare muzzle.
If done properly, the only difference from a radial screw on brake and a back bored and ported radial type brake will be one screws off for easier maintenance and one doesn't. Also the consideration that if too small of thread diameter is used for a given bore diameter, there is the possibility of muzzle belling with a threaded muzzle, where as that will not be an issue with a back bored and ported muzzle.
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My man this is the kind of answers that make my day. I was sick to my stomach when I've seen it as I freaked out thinking that it is ruined gun. Had so much looking forward to this gun and when it came then it is not bad at all as much when something unexpected like this happens that you kinda loose that enthusiasm. I am sure anyone had a moment like this before.
Wanted to ask as well about WSM and shorter barrel...cons at least.
Barrel is ported and recessed crown inside as far as I can see.
Factory length was 24.5 and still is.
It is hundred percent ported integrated brake and not screwed on.
