Berger supporters, Vocal Minority with Something to Gain, or Legit?

I didn't read all the replies, no need to....There isn't a bullet on the internet that hasn't been crummed by some disappointed individual somewhere.
I've figured out it's pretty pointless to come to the defense of a bullet. All the explanation and pictures don't do a thing to change the mind of someone that has had bad experiences with said bullet. Fun to read though. mtmuley
 
What about reloder 26? If you want to stir the pot you might as well throw it all in at one time. :rolleyes:
LOL right cohunt?! While we're at it, let's toss in a couple handles of voodoo "barrel cleaning and break-in" and a pile of "What's the best________" just to get the 'tard convention REALLY fired up. My God this place....
 
I want berger consistancy, with an accubond core and and eldx tip.....is that too much to ask for?
A true match grade bullet (berger)
A real bonded core (accubond)
And consistent expansion (eld-x)....

A bonded berger with a polymer tip to ensure expansion....simple right?

I suppose while I'm dreaming, I'd like this in a sub 1/2moa 7lb rifle with a 250@ 3000 and .9 bc with little recoil and no brake.


Speer's new Impact bullet meets these..... limited to 6.5 And 30 caliber right now but I plan on giving them a try.
I shot 6 Whitetails this week with the new Hornady ATips 153gr and they seem to do the job quite well to but they are not bonded.
 
Tried Berger 210 HVLD in a newly acquired, albeit used Savage 300 WM. Only one animal but results were "textbook". This buck was about 50 yards away, bedded about 40 feet below me in a raspberry thicket. Only movement was putting his head down. Not even a kick. I understand the allure and also the issues that need to be addressed with them such as ensuring points are open. There are other styles of hunting common in my area that I dont think they would be the appropriate choice (like making drives/close range/running/poor shot angles). I think we have so many great choices available. I just wish I had opportunity to try more in real world scenarios.
 

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Here's another fun one that may be relevant, 4 point muley buck, hard quartering away at 503 yards, 308 Win running a 215 Berger at 2430 IIRC, bullet entered right in front of ham exited of side shoulder.
Heart and lungs SHREDDED, blood trail was chunks of lung and globs of blood, I let my daughter find him.
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Hey ! That heart is still edible ! :)
 
Congrats - I was wondering when the first person would bring up hammer. The hammer supporters on this site are 1000 times worse than any berger supporter.
Just on page 2 but I predict a war coming.... :) Remember, two totally different bullets and concept's . Ear ? *** ? Typo
 
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I drank the Berger cool aid several years ago when I built my first 300 rum. We started with the 210 vld's. Everything we hit from 200 yards to 1000 yards ran away like they hadn't been hit. All died but one bull went two miles after a perfect behind the shoulder hit at 750. So we switched to the 230 hybrid. I killed 3 bulls in two years between Idaho and Oregon. Not one died on the first shot, especially if I missed bone. A gunsmith friend of mine convinced me the 215's performed better on game due to higher velocity. I killed two six point bulls that year, one took two bullets, and the other soaked up 5 215's at 800 yards. 3 of those 215's passed through without opening. I switched back to the 210 smk's the next year and have 6 kills from 200-1100 yards. All have been one shot kills. The exit wounds from the 210 smk's have been amazing, usually the size of a softball. If I was ever going to shoot the 230's or 215's again I would drill the tips out. We did some water testing both drilled and not drilled, and it was night and day difference. The drilled bullets opened up, and the not drilled did not. With all that the Berger's did shoot amazing. Both the 230 and 215's shot under 1/3 moa at 100 yards.
 
Tried Berger 210 HVLD in a newly acquired, albeit used Savage 300 WM. Only one animal but results were "textbook". This buck was about 50 yards away, bedded about 40 feet below me in a raspberry thicket. Only movement was putting his head down. Not even a kick. I understand the allure and also the issues that need to be addressed with them such as ensuring points are open. There are other styles of hunting common in my area that I dont think they would be the appropriate choice (like making drives/close range/running/poor shot angles). I think we have so many great choices available. I just wish I had opportunity to try more in real world scenarios.
How old is that penny ? Been in your pocket awhile . :) Good pics.
 
Liv4thehunt. Did you check the tips on the 215's before hunting with them? I know I've had a few lots of 215's that have had a very high percentage of plugged tips. So far I've never had one fail to expand. But I always check the tips. Plugged ones I use for practice or checking zero.
 
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