Helicopter hunting hogs down side

[26Reload]

Game harassment is game harassment.....
Heck....stopping and looking fo long is considered game harassment these days.....'if you are a hunter'....but stop and photograph all you want......

but how do you prove that is is "actively pushing game animals" or just flying over ? I dont think the OP ever said the choppers are intentionally pushing game animals, he just stated that because they are in the area they are causing the game animals to migrate--there is a big difference

 

[Deleted member 107796]

Hopefully, you can resolve this with a reasonable dialogue with everyone involved and a bit of a tweak that can fix things. Letting things go is definitely not the thing to do as I see many uncontrolled endeavors like this, with little responsibility, go way overboard.

 

[Bob Wright]

Here's my issue...hog hunting has been turned into a revenue stream. What incentive do land owners have to exterminate them? If the land isn't being used for livestock or farming, the revenue is charging people to shoot hogs, but limiting the amount of hogs taken, to continue the cash flow.
If hogs are to be removed because they are a feral pest, destroying the habitat for wild animals, wouldn't hogs need to be eliminated entirely? Not when the cash cow became the norm.
Even prairie dog hunting is a huge revenue stream for ranchers, taking cash from wealthy people while the shooters act like pest control for the ranchers. It's turning the whole thing upside down. The property owners employing these methods are capitalists, and if that is the decision they have made, I can understand why.
Thankfully, I live in AZ. it's only 15% private/city/ town. The rest is pretty much our hunting grounds, for now. Hogs probably would never survive here. They are not regulated as state game animals, and therefore open season.

 

[KyCarl]

That's a way of life..Remember Full Service Gas Stations? Water was Free.
And you still had Personal Choices? Well sadly no more..It's all about the mighty $$$

 

[J E Custom]

There is still a lot we don't know about the impact of many new experiments. Normally we find out the hard way after things go bad. Not everyone has a good idea when messing with mother nature. Almost anything can through nature out of balance.

There has been a long history of things that seamed like a good idea at the time and after a while they were discovered to be a bad idea even sometimes a very bad idea
like the wolves, carp, nutria and many more.

We found that Hogs were not impossible to manage as long as some thought went into it. Our experience with hogs has been that you must keep a handle on their population
and buy killing and trapping numbers that wold control them no harm came to other species. We trapped when numbers started exceeding the ability of the land to support them with only hunting, and for the last several years numbers have not exploded like in the past.

I certainly don't know all the answers and have to rely on historical data. I can say with experience and the data that I have used for many years that If you pressure a species enough, it will pack up and move. Even hogs, if they are pressured enough will go to greener pastures or learn when to do their thing without getting killed.

The bigger deer learn to go nocturnal the instant any pressure/presents is felt. (That's how they got big). also different areas have different problems, so different solutions are necessary to keep a balance in nature. We are generally considered the Apex predator so our responsibility should be managing the resource's not singling out one over the other. History shows that when we interfere with mother nature it normally does not end up well.

PS: I would still love to make a heli hunt for pigs but not at the expense of other game animals, so if I ever do I will pick the place and time.

J E CUSTOM

 

[26Reload]

Why oh why did you have to bring up nutria.....another garbage animal....
Again non-native to the American continent.....
And running rampant most anywhere....
Somehow they ended up in Oregon....the Coquille river system(that i guided on for 20 years) had none...but we had lots of beaver.....somewhere along the line someone must have transported them in....now the entire ecosystem is suffering....the rivers used to be covered by myrtlewood trees...while floating down stream you could look up to see nothing but green leaves from the canopy across basically the entire lower portion of the river....then something odd starting happening....holes dug into the river banks all over the place....the nutria began under cutting the river banks qnd made them cave into the streams..or undercut and when the river rose to flood stage trees toppled.....looks like a war zone......disgusting...
And once about 7 years ago traveling thru the hills with my son I spotted what i thought was a beaver up on a ridge road...backed up and saw that it was in fact a nutria....a lng ways from any river or creek.......so i handed my son the rifle and let him send that damned thing back to he'll....
And the city of Eugene Oregon protects the nutria with rights to not be run over by vehicles while crossing roads.....ridiculous.....idiots....

 

[sturner]

Our land owners fly and shoot hogs every few years in the early spring
They also fly it every year for a deer count in September we haven't noticed any adverse effects

 

[cohunt]

Why oh why did you have to bring up nutria.....another garbage animal....
Again non-native to the American continent.....
And running rampant most anywhere....
Somehow they ended up in Oregon....the Coquille river system(that i guided on for 20 years) had none...but we had lots of beaver.....somewhere along the line someone must have transported them in....now the entire ecosystem is suffering....the rivers used to be covered by myrtlewood trees...while floating down stream you could look up to see nothing but green leaves from the canopy across basically the entire lower portion of the river....then something odd starting happening....holes dug into the river banks all over the place....the nutria began under cutting the river banks qnd made them cave into the streams..or undercut and when the river rose to flood stage trees toppled.....looks like a war zone......disgusting...
And once about 7 years ago traveling thru the hills with my son I spotted what i thought was a beaver up on a ridge road...backed up and saw that it was in fact a nutria....a lng ways from any river or creek.......so i handed my son the rifle and let him send that damned thing back to he'll....
And the city of Eugene Oregon protects the nutria with rights to not be run over by vehicles while crossing roads.....ridiculous.....idiots....

Blame the French for the nutria

 

[26Reload]

Yep...originally released in Louisiana country by the French....
But another that was introduced....the mink....there was probably a native mink population here....but it was a farmed animal for the fur...prices dropped..so did the cage doors.....i like mink...they are a cool little critter....
And i also like the ermine....brown phase is neat looking but they change to white like many critters do during cooler months......vicious little guys....
Wanna get a couple of the whites to mount on the wall.....
Forgot to mention...have cousins that own rice properties near willows CA....
But not many pigs survive there.....

 

[CVCOBRA1]

Just tonight a friend of mine showed me a trail cam pic of a ferrel pig that he had picked up on the farm he hunts. He had also posted it on facebook and the DNR saw it on there. They contacted him in a matter of hours. We have pigs here but this was 180 miles north of where they have been seen before. Everyone here as farmers know what damage they can do. Bobcats and cougars are in our area and have never been here before. Same as wolves in Wis that weren't there thirty years ago when I hunted deer there. Some of these eco rats think they know how to cure everything.

 

[26Reload]

Did you guys see the Google deport of the girls that found the grizzly bear skull......partially petrified......in Kansas.........time to ship rogue grizz back to homelands.........

 

[just country]

morning, Fed. gov. in action. everything the government
touches turns to sh tt. justme gbot tum

 

[sturner]

I hunted the King ranch with the cowboys in the early 90s first year we hunted saw hundreds of pigs the next year saw maybe ten
They trapped literally thousands of pigs in a year

 

[sturner]

My point is the King has helos for cattle round up but instead they trap