Same place , that makes three hogs, all will be cleaned and will go into soup in a months time. I got these this morning , picture of the place where taken, about 300 yards from my place. Coal shovel for comparison, the two filled the trap up, at least 30 lbs. apiece had to use the atv to pull the trap out of the lake from the weight. You place the trap along the edges and need to give the turtles an airspace so they won't drown.