Strickly groundhogs

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by Varmint Hunter, Nov 23, 2003.

  1. Varmint Hunter

    Varmint Hunter Well-Known Member

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    I am planning on rebarreling one of my blueprinted 40X (short) action rifles. I want just the right cartridge for killing ground hogs at 1,000yds or so. You guys have got me thinking about a fast twist 6-284 or 6.5-284. I definately do not want to shoot 7mm or .308 bullets for hoggin'.

    I recently sold the H-S Precision Tactical stock that was on the rifle so I will need a new stock also. I was thinking of either a McMillan Edge or maybe a Shehane laminated Tracker. Really undecided on the stock though.

    What is your suggestion on cartridge and stock?
     
  2. Randy in Va

    Randy in Va Well-Known Member

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    I'd reccomend the 6.5 in a .284 or 06 case. Research them both well.
     
  3. Darryl Cassel

    Darryl Cassel Well-Known Member

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    VH

    My Choice would be-- 6.5/284-- 30" barrel (Hart or Kreiger) 8 or 9 twist-- McMillen stock.

    Later
    DC [​IMG]
     
  4. ewallace

    ewallace Well-Known Member

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    I have been using a 6.5/284 for a couple years for varmints and think it is an excellent choose with a 8 or 9 twist. I would talk to Bruce Baer about a stock.
     
  5. baldeagle713

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    Varmint Hunter:
    You have just been informed by some of the most experianced people I know. trust then they know. [​IMG]
     
  6. 6.5 Bandit

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    I would go with a 6mm/06 AI with a 30" tube and a 8 twist.. Push the 105 A-max @ roughly 3400fps..

    6.5 Bandit

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  7. jb1000br

    jb1000br Well-Known Member

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    VH--I'm fairly sure the EDGE stock is a super light stock designed for short range BR--not gonna work with a LR gun. If you want a laminated stock see bruce baer or richards microfit. For glass i'd stick with mcmillan MBR.

    If you want to use a bipod id get a tactical mcmillan: A-2, A-3, A-5 or their prone stock.

    id go 6mm ack or 6.5-284 for a little longer barrel life than the 6-284

    JB

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  8. rjb

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    For just plain "Dogging" the above 6.5X284 or 6.5X06 could fill the bill. However if just the lighter bullets are in store a 1:9 30 inch tube may serve the project better. That is if the Hornady Amaxs are choice. I've had sseveral 105 Amaxs blowup out out of 1:8 twist 6MM Rem @ 3200fps. Same loads
    did OK when tried in another rifle with 1:9 barrel. Others milage may vary [​IMG] rjb
     
  9. Varmint Hunter

    Varmint Hunter Well-Known Member

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    I think I'll probably give the 6.5x284 a shot. Will both an 8" or 9" twist stabilize the 140-142gr match bullets?

    VH
     
  10. rjb

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    Actually the long range target fellows are finding a twist somewhere in between say 1:8.5 to be the best of both worlds. They are available from Hart, Kreiger or PacNor maybe premium barrel makers. It also depends on barrel lenght somewhat. If your building a "carry" rifle you may prefer 26-28 inch tube. Then the 1:8 twist will assure the heavy bullets run true.
    For target work some use 30 inch or longer barrels. When the actual 142 gr velocity can
    exceed 3000 fps then the 1:9 can also run the heavy bullets and the lighter weights at
    higher velocities will stay together way out there too. Note bullet stablity or instablity
    usually does not show up in the first 100-200 yards. At 300-400 is where bullet flight is going well or the bullet may tumble and break up. So test long range to be sure. rjb
     
  11. Guest

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    I allmost purchased Mr. Shaheen's Indian Summer stock; the one that was on the cover of "Precision shooting" (or what ever it is called now). It is beautiful. However as beautiful as it is it wound up being a little more than I could afford at the time. (To bed it correctly) But surely it has to be THE Finest looking stock I have ever seen. Though I am still in love with it's looks I am certain that it is set up to be comfortable to shoot as well.
     
  12. Lee in OH

    Lee in OH Well-Known Member

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    My long range GH rig is a 264 Win. Mag. While it gets the job done, it's not perfect.

    If I had it to do all over again (knowing what I know now), I'd go with the 6.5-284 or a 260 (AI maybe). The 140 grain 6.5's seem to get happy between 2900 and 3000 fps. Anything more than a 284 size case is a waste of powder. If brass supply has you worried, go 260 (or 260 AI). I don't think they'll stop making .308 cases anytime soon, do you????
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  13. Lee in OH

    Lee in OH Well-Known Member

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    My long range GH rig is a 264 Win. Mag. While it gets the job done, it's not perfect.

    If I had it to do all over again (knowing what I know now), I'd go with the 6.5-284 or a 260 (AI maybe). The 140 grain 6.5's seem to get happy between 2900 and 3000 fps. Anything more than a 284 size case is a waste of powder. If brass supply has you worried, go 260 (or 260 AI). I don't think they'll stop making .308 cases anytime soon, do you????
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    SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST...DSL dropped and I hit the button twice.

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