I worked for Engelhard for 10 yrs. Even worked as a machinist in their precious metals mint in Carteret NJ for a short spell. Never got into trading though. That was a good old company with roots in all the financial centers of Europe and S.A. and connections that ran all the way to the diamond monopoly and Ian Fleming( 007 ). Charles Engelhard apparently was a hell of a guy. If you got their stock report yrs ago and followed the money backwards like a detective it led to some very interesting people. Good luck on your trading.