Hello All: I am new to these forums as far as partisipating goes, but have really enjoyed the fine reading. Their seems to be a vast amount of knowledge here. I shoot a Savage 300 ultra mag that has been customized. It shots just under 1/2" @ 100 yds. with several loads. I am interested in some info on the 208 gr. amax for shots past 400 yds. on elk sized animals. I was also wondering how they compare to the 210gr. berger. Are they both vld designs. I have hunted for over 30 years but mainly with controlled exspanding bullets. I am now looking for a reliable bullet for long range impacts on game. Their is nothing more enjoyable than a rifle that hits what you aim at and nothing more frustrating than one that does not. Thanks to every one in advance for any help you can give.