# Just starting and its not that difficult...is it?

#### jimisbell

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I have begun to gather my "kit" so I can begin LRS and ULRS. My scope is MilDot and the turret is 1/10 MOA. I was looking at rangefinders (ONLY RANGEFINDER, no bells and whistles) and they seem to be expensive so I assumed it was difficult. Wrong! Its a simple calculation. As I continued on I looked at the MilDot analog calculator for \$30 and figured that was the way to go. But if that was the way to go then surely someone has written an APP for my smart phone. So I looked and found many. But not one will just do the calculation (target height in inches x 27.77)/(MilDots)=Yards. Every blessed one wants all sorts of input and most wont yield yards. I have a Lapua calculator to do all the other inpiuts and tell me how many clicks on the turret. I just want to calculate range from my reticle and none are designed to do that simple calculation. I can do the basic formula on my calculator faster than I can wade thru the APPs that are offered for my phone.
Am I missing something???

#### ShtrRdy

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Just use your calculator. As you suggested - it's an easy calculation.

As you'll find out when you try ranging objects further away with your reticle - the errors introduced become much greater. Therefore your range estimate will be further off. This is where modern LRF shine. They give you a more accurate measurement of the distance to an object.

I need to double check something that you wrote. Do you really have a turret that is 1//10th MOA?

#### jimisbell

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Yes, That is what the markings say on the turrets. But I have yet to get it to the field to check it. I also questioned it, but the only way to know for sure is to shoot it. I am looking for a weekend school to start off on the right foot. With COVID19 things are very slow. Its not really important, a click is a click is a click. I was mainly interested in getting a MilDot reticle which is what they sent me.

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#### jimisbell

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Inaccuracy in range will not be a problem at first, because I cant shoot that far anyway...LOL But later I can get a better rangefinder if needed. BUT I am interested in target only so most times I should know the range before I start.

#### georgiaoutlaw

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Just use your calculator. As you suggested - it's an easy calculation.

As you'll find out when you try ranging objects further away with your reticle - the errors introduced become much greater. Therefore your range estimate will be further off. This is where modern LRF shine. They give you a more accurate measurement of the distance to an object.

I need to double check something that you wrote. Do you really have a turret that is 1//10th MOA?
in ur opinion u think it’s Neto sight a 6.5creedmore in a little high at 100yds for deer hunting purposes thanks

#### ShtrRdy

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in ur opinion u think it’s Neto sight a 6.5creedmore in a little high at 100yds for deer hunting purposes thanks
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#### Chuk4blast

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you'll have to convert everything on a dope chart with correct clicks, thats the only problem with a Mil-dot ret / MOA turrets, not very convenient but it can be done. If you find it doesnt suit you, you may be able to change the reticle

#### georgiaoutlaw

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Sorry about that I’ll try again thanks in your opinion how high should I zero a 6.5creedmore hunting deer zeroed at 100yds

#### jimisbell

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I started this thread about Rangefinders. Seems to have drifted a bit............

#### 25WSM

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The quality and accuracy of rangefinders has improved to much and prices have gotten so low I would just get a simple one. I go to a range that has a ton of steel literally set out to 1200 yards and I use my rangefinders on these all the time. Even a simple 1000 yard one will read steel plates or the berm that far.
Shep

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Thanks

#### BallisticsGuy

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So you want something analog that you can feed a target size and a mil subtend and it'll give you the turret setting? I publish a spreadsheet that you can use to create drop tables something like a BDC.

#### jimisbell

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No, I was just looking for a simple APP for my phone that would do ONLY one thing. Solve the equation of inches times 27.77 divided by MilDots equals yards. Its not difficult and I can do it easy on my calculator but I was hoping for a simple APP to do it with just the two inputs and hit "carriage return." In the old days of computing (1960-2000) those things were easy but now everyone wants to make things difficult to justify their work. Now you have to purchase a \$160 instrument to do just that one calculation.