I went to the local shop and shot one a couple of weeks ago. i shot the alphamax, and the bowtech destroyer, and the maxxis. I wanted the 70-80 limbs so i had to order it, and it should be here today! I am hoping, but they havent called yet. Anyway, I had an 04, or 05 vipertec and loved it. the last couple of years i have shot the new bows, but wasnt convinced i needed a new one until now. i was really impressed.