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morgaj1

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A buddy and I just got back from a whitetail hunt in Missouri. First, let me say, that I have never seen as many quality deer as I have on this trip. One day, I saw 89 does and 6 bucks, 3 of which were 7 or better. One of the days, I shot about a 160-165" ten point at 180 yards free handed. I hit him behind the shoulder, but a tad high. We waited 90 minutes to track him. About 70 yards from where I shot him, we jumped him up near a pond. He got up slowly and ran off, so we backed out. We came back the next morning and tracked him. About 20 yards from where we last saw him, we tracked him to the property line fence, which was only about 2 feet high. On that fence was hair and flesh, so we know he crossed there. To make a long story short, the neighboring farmer would not let us track the deer on his property, so we never recovered him. To know that he is dead there, but we couldn't recover him made me sick. I am glad I had the opportunity but wish I could have crossed the fence to find him. Just venting...
 

jd5521

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A game warden may have helped you with access to recover you deer

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👆this. You do not have the authority to go in another landowner’s property but you do have the right to recover the game you are harvesting. A game warden could have helped you out with the recovery. Sucks the neighbor was not cooperative.
 

morgaj1

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👆this. You do not have the authority to go in another landowner’s property but you do have the right to recover the game you are harvesting. A game warden could have helped you out with the recovery. Sucks the neighbor was not cooperative.
I didn’t realize this. So, the game warden would have tracked on the neighboring farm?
 

Lowlander

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Game wardens will help you if the landowner is being difficult. I figure whirlwindjml is correct, the guy had probably already got it. I can't see any other reason not to let you get the buck. Especially since you had evidence of it on the fence line.

I've helped several people track deer onto us over the years. If they have legitimate, reasonable evidence that it happened. I don't see a problem with it. Though I do accompany them when we go track it down. Three times we found the buck, once the coyotes got to it overnight.
 

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A buddy and I just got back from a whitetail hunt in Missouri. First, let me say, that I have never seen as many quality deer as I have on this trip. One day, I saw 89 does and 6 bucks, 3 of which were 7 or better. One of the days, I shot about a 160-165" ten point at 180 yards free handed. I hit him behind the shoulder, but a tad high. We waited 90 minutes to track him. About 70 yards from where I shot him, we jumped him up near a pond. He got up slowly and ran off, so we backed out. We came back the next morning and tracked him. About 20 yards from where we last saw him, we tracked him to the property line fence, which was only about 2 feet high. On that fence was hair and flesh, so we know he crossed there. To make a long story short, the neighboring farmer would not let us track the deer on his property, so we never recovered him. To know that he is dead there, but we couldn't recover him made me sick. I am glad I had the opportunity but wish I could have crossed the fence to find him. Just venting...
It is disappointing to not be able to recover an animal but I do thank you for following the landowners wishes as he has rights too! As a landowner I’ve never given anyone a hard time over asking permission, even guys that were to greedy or just excited to ask that I’ve caught I’ve let recover their deer. You just never know the landowners plans and it’s just plain aggravating to set up hunts for family or friends that travel in to find someone tracking without permission. Just my two pennies but thanks again!
 

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Game wardens will help you if the landowner is being difficult. I figure whirlwindjml is correct, the guy had probably already got it. I can't see any other reason not to let you get the buck. Especially since you had evidence of it on the fence line.

I've helped several people track deer onto us over the years. If they have legitimate, reasonable evidence that it happened. I don't see a problem with it. Though I do accompany them when we go track it down. Three times we found the buck, once the coyotes got to it overnight.

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Game wardens will help you if the landowner is being difficult. I figure whirlwindjml is correct, the guy had probably already got it. I can't see any other reason not to let you get the buck. Especially since you had evidence of it on the fence line.

I've helped several people track deer onto us over the years. If they have legitimate, reasonable evidence that it happened. I don't see a problem with it. Though I do accompany them when we go track it down. Three times we found the buck, once the coyotes got to it overnight.
Game wardens will help you if the landowner is being difficult. I figure whirlwindjml is correct, the guy had probably already got it. I can't see any other reason not to let you get the buck. Especially since you had evidence of it on the fence line.

I've helped several people track deer onto us over the years. If they have legitimate, reasonable evidence that it happened. I don't see a problem with it. Though I do accompany them when we go track it down. Three times we found the buck, once the coyotes got to it overnight.
I’d have to say any law enforcement asking for someone that has already gotten told no would get the same response. The landowner has the right to say NO!
 

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Really the gripe should not be a land owner that doesn't allow strangers access but with the guy placing the shot, I never figured it was someone else's issue if I failed to kill and animal on the property I had permission on, 100% operator error IMO!! More productive to channel your frustration into picking your shot and shot placement better next time!!
 

Coldfinger

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He did have the right and I was respectful. It took every ounce of restraint I had not to just go retrieve the deer though.
I know the feeling I made a great shot on a cow elk in Colorado. The rancher I hunted on was very adamant to not cross fences no matter what. I went back to let him know I hit an elk all fat dumb and happy thinking he’d say go get her!!! I ate my ego after he said do not cross any fences no matter what!!!! I went back to the blood in the dry grass at the fence and paced back and forth but just couldn’t bring myself to disrespect his wishes!! It sucked eating a $600 license 1700 miles down the interstates!!
 

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Game cops don't have any authority over landowners telling you to stay off their property...nor does the game cop have right to trespass any more than anyone else...its the landowners 'right' to let someone recover the animal or let it rot....thats why it's called private property....and if that wounded animal was trying to escape to his property you should have taken a marginal shot to stop it.....the way the cookie crumbles......
 

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