Custom rifle value

[WhiteRubi]

Hey guys. I'm leaning towards selling a custom rifle and it seems prices are all over the place. Do you all use some variety of depreciation or the W.A.G method.
Specs below:
Stiller TAC 30. (2014 era)
24" Proof Sendero 6.5 Creedmoor
McMillan A-3 Sporter edge fill
Seekins DBM
Timney Calvin Elite
Action and barrel ends are cerakoted green to match the green in the green in the camo stock, which is similar to GAP but I can't remember the pattern.

No scope/rings, bipod, included. Could include magazines (5 and 10 rd magpul), brass, bullets (140 accubonds, 95 vmax, 143 ELDX)

 

[HSmithTX]

Who built it is a big factor, big name smith vs local guy makes a real difference in what it is worth. How many rounds on it? Overall condition? Group pictures help value a lot. First response in the want to sell add is going to be 'what does it weigh?" Next is going to be is the barrel threaded? If so what thread?

Stiller are good actions but don't seem to pull the numbers some of the other actions do, overall I think your rifle is built with good/great parts. Some guys try to get 80+% of new build price out of them, seems a lot of rifles with very low miles sell in that range. Seems a lot of mid-life builds or builds with more miles on them sell in that 60-75% of new range. If you want to move it a flat $1000 off what it cost plus a couple hundred more for whatever wear and tear it shows will move it pretty quickly and that is because a rebarrel is going to be close to $1000 all in. Guys can buy it for the sum of the parts and put a new barrel on it and have a really good rifle.

 

[WhiteRubi]

Thanks HSmithTX

Local smith that runs a machine shop, builds aerospace parts
round count is under 200
Very minor wear marks , (9.75/10 on condition)
I can get group pics but it consistently shoots 5 shot sub half MOA with 143 ELDX handloads ( i have pics of .19 MOA groups @ 200 yards)
Weight is 9 lb 4 oz (unloaded, with NX8 4-32x50)
Barrel is threaded 5/8x24 and currently has ASR 3 port brake

 

[LRNut]

There are two problems IMO selling a custom long range rifle:
1. If it so great, why are you selling? Posting pics of wonderful groups is great, but they are probably cherry picked
2. Barrel life. I have said it before, but when someone quotes "only 125 rounds down my 300 RUM barrel" I don't believe it. And makes me think about point #1 above.

I did buy one LR rifle that has proved to be a tack driver, so miracles do occur.

 

[Shane Lindsey]

2. Barrel life. I have said it before, but when someone quotes "only 125 rounds down my 300 RUM barrel" I don't believe it. And makes me think about point #1 above.

Do you not keep a record with chronological dates of rounds fired/cleaning conditions/load used?

 

[WhiteRubi]

There are two problems IMO selling a custom long range rifle:
1. If it so great, why are you selling? Posting pics of wonderful groups is great, but they are probably cherry picked
2. Barrel life. I have said it before, but when someone quotes "only 125 rounds down my 300 RUM barrel" I don't believe it. And makes me think about point #1 above.

I did buy one LR rifle that has proved to be a tack driver, so miracles do occur.

Yeah, I get all of those points. For me, I'm not a collector and don't need/want multiple rifles that accomplish similar things. I'm 99% done with a 7 SAUM build. I just don't see a time I would grab the 6.5 instead of the 7 SAUM. I certainly see your point regarding the other points, as well. I could cherry pick groups and I could lie about round count. Those things are obviously unknowns to potential buyers, which is why its not worth "NEW" pricing, regardless of who built it.

 

[lancetkenyon]

A complete list of every component used is critical in my opinion.

Gunsmith or builder
Action brand/model, length, finish, bolt handle, etc.
Barrel brand, length, twist rate, land and groove shape, material (CF vs Steel), contour, finish
Muzzle work (threaded w. cap, brake, or none)
Chambering
Stock brand, model, bedding type, chassis, finish color
Bottom metal brand and magazine type/length
Trigger brand and model w. pull weight
Rail or rings included (intergral or not)
Any other upgrades to bolt or action if not from factory
Round count
Targets with groups and load info used
Any and all blemishes
Any additional items included or excluded (scopes, rings, bipod, brake, rail, etc.)

Lots of photos

Price for a used rifle, if very lightly used, is usually components cost, and you pretty much eat the labor costs.
When round count goes up, or blemishes add up, start deducting from there.

A rifle that cost you $6K to build with $1500 in labor will probably be $4500 selling price used with very low round count.

 

[KonoctisWigwam]

I'm no rifle assessor, but I would say $2500 without the scope, as it's fairly old. You have good parts though.

A rifle that cost you $6K to build with $1500 in labor will probably be $4500 selling price used with very low round count.

I agree, but that would be for a fairly new rifle, about 1-2 years old. You need to find the right buyer, that's all. Price is supply/demand.

The pic looks good, but you still need to find the right buyer. That can or cannot be easy.

 

[RichCoyle]

There are two problems IMO selling a custom long range rifle:
1. If it so great, why are you selling? Posting pics of wonderful groups is great, but they are probably cherry picked
2. Barrel life. I have said it before, but when someone quotes "only 125 rounds down my 300 RUM barrel" I don't believe it. And makes me think about point #1 above.

I did buy one LR rifle that has proved to be a tack driver, so miracles do occur.

A slight change of subject. My son-in-law was able to buy a 300 rum with one round fire through it. Some guy bought it for his 10-year-old son. It didn't have a brake. The kid fired it one time and said forget it. My son-in-law happened to be there. Something happened and guy offered it to him for $400 brand new. Even included the box of 19 cartridges.

My son-in-law shot couple of groups with it at 300 yd. One was 7/10 and the other was a little under an inch.

Like you said, miracles do happen.

 

[Phil Rizzo]

A slight change of subject. My son-in-law was able to buy a 300 rum with one round fire through it. Some guy bought it for his 10-year-old son. It didn't have a brake. The kid fired it one time and said forget it. My son-in-law happened to be there. Something happened and guy offered it to him for $400 brand new. Even included the box of 19 cartridges.

My son-in-law shot couple of groups with it at 300 yd. One was 7/10 and the other was a little under an inch.

Like you said, miracles do happen.

Rich I'd think low round count used rifles happened more often with the RUM family as a whole! Those lightweight factory m700's were killers to the inexperienced.
I shot an unbraked 338 one time.That's once!
Handed it back to the proud owner with best wishes.

 

[HSmithTX]

Yes, the wood stock thin barrel RUM rifles with a light scope on them will knock the defacations out of you.....

 

[Phil Rizzo]

This one had a black Tupperware stock.!

 

[Phil Rizzo]

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[CrossChoke]

Id say the fair market value of your rifle is $2200. Maybe if you met at a range and could shoot a .5moa group at distance you could get $3000 with load data and dies. I just don't think used customs are worth what people think they are. See post #4