Hi sorry for the wait I haven't been signed in for a bit, this is funny I was just going to put mine up for sale I love mine but I do a lot of extreme hunting as far as packing along ways in but I'm also an outfitter and all my clients shoot my gun when they are hunting with me, I love the 230s the ballistics are crazy im shooting 91.7g of rotumbo at 2976fps I'm not pushing it I'm getting great life out of my brass and very comfortable to shoot I have a lot of youth hunters hunt bear with me and they shoot lights out with it a number of 800 yard plus kills with the bullets also