I ran into a guy tonight that I haven't seen in a few years. I reminded me of when I first started working for his uncle. I asked them all to let me know when they were going to fly. They wanted to know why because most of the other guys didn't like it when they flew. I smiled and said so I can make sure all of my snares are set and ready to go. They laughed and said okay. So, they called me one evening and told me they planned to fly in a couple of days. I got everything checked. They flew and got three coyotes; I did my check and got five coyotes. I had seen that before the coyotes had already been flown and knew what was going on so would run from the sound before they got close enough to see them. Any way the guy I saw tonight was out locating with me one morning and we got a coyote to talking and knew where it was called the helicopter in and it couldn't find it. but I caught it in the fence snare close to where it had been talking to us. Another morning we called the helicopter in on one and they shot it about a hundred yards from us down in some really rough draws he wasn't too sure that he liked them shooting that close to us, I just laughed at him and said at least they knew where we were and they weren't shooting at us, and the hulls weren't dropping on us. I have had some interesting experiences locating for the plane and the helicopter!
Ramblings and Such From Hunting Coyote
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SquirrelShooter
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Yeah, I mean I can see where the water underneath the wax might heat a little faster, and that the theory is the the trap will be pulled through the layer of wax; however, wax is like the cheapest step! Like you said, for a good wax job, the trap has to be brought to same temp as wax for a proper waxing. I've noticed that wax doesn't last long in water, and good wave action makes those CS's VERY touchy trying to set! I think I like painted/dipped traps for water, and change them out as needed like you said. My painted and waxed dirt traps seem to last several cycles; however, my trapping is strictly clay soils.
Have you ever waxed just the "sides" (springs and just maybe 1" each end of the horizontal grip bar) of your body grip traps Dave? Man, they are fast!!!
BTW, pretty sure I missed an easy-peezy coyote tonight. My scope reset right as I shot, and I lost my sighting, and there's lots of tall grass, so I couldn't see it run off; however, even though it only like 135ish, I didn't hear my bullet whop. Regardless, it wasn't DRT. I will know by late tomorrow or Sunday with the vultures. Man, I sure get humbled pretty regularly by these jokers!!!
Have you ever waxed just the "sides" (springs and just maybe 1" each end of the horizontal grip bar) of your body grip traps Dave? Man, they are fast!!!
BTW, pretty sure I missed an easy-peezy coyote tonight. My scope reset right as I shot, and I lost my sighting, and there's lots of tall grass, so I couldn't see it run off; however, even though it only like 135ish, I didn't hear my bullet whop. Regardless, it wasn't DRT. I will know by late tomorrow or Sunday with the vultures. Man, I sure get humbled pretty regularly by these jokers!!!
SquirrelShooter
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Just so you guys don't lose faith in my equipment... my riflegun is/was on! I dont know what happened other than a botched shot...
No I never waxed my conibears, I did use the different notches on the trigger for different firing tensions. The vee notch in my dog and pan made it so they set and I knew when the coil spring was set. The pan was free falling but not wabbly when not set, when set you could feel it click into place and caused enough tension that it took a few ounces of pressure to spring the trap. We do have some gumbo bentonite areas but mostly I have sandy soil, and I got to where I dug out enough area to be filled with shale so that it wouldn't freeze solid with just enough soil sifted on top to blend it in. It's good to know that it's you and not your equipment that messed up on a shot. I bought a new rifle one time and took it out of the wooden stock and was pillar bedding it relieving the barrel channel and stabilizing the wood, when a guy said you haven't even shot it how do you know that you need to do all of that it might shoot just fine without all of that! I told him Well when I miss, I know it was me and not my rifle if I take some of the things that can fail out of the equation first, before they have the chance to fail. I bought a Browning high power clone yesterday just to see what it was like compared to the Browning's, thus far it's pretty close in all of the parts and not bad in the fit and finish of the parts. It was on sale got it for 447.00 regular price 650.00 for the target model in 2023 and close to 800.00 for today's model. They put it on sale because it had been in the store since July of 2023, the wife was only mad for a few hours why the h--- would you buy another gun, you already have too many!!!! You can only shoot one at a time and you can only carry so many with you!! Yeah, but they all have their place and use, now I need to go shoot a coyote with it so I don't have one that I haven't do that with.
SquirrelShooter
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... nuttin else to say about your shopping experience Dave!As Trump Moves To Allow 'Cyanide Bombs' To Kill Coyotes, Some Worry Dogs Will Die
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2026/0...t-TaOe1AIaHlfgkXuNGGMZDqRLeqPZMZUnznjw.UXPtrV
I hope that the link posted correctly. It was in the email cowboy state daily on May23.
I thought that it might be of interest to some of you guys.
74honker
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Well that's interesting.
It's pretty sad they didn't even get the terminology correct! They aren't a bomb nor are they a gun! They are an M=44 spring loaded device that has a plunger that hits the bottom of a plastic capsule that has only enough sodium cyanide in it to kill an animal of 110 lbs. or less. The cyanide has a fluorescent dye in it red for government work and green for civilian work. The dye will show up under a black light.
SquirrelShooter
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My buddy in OR whom I sent the story:
"As I live on the (literal) wildland urban interface, we have plenty of coyotes. My neighbor to the west has an 80ac pivot that he hays twice a year and uses it for winter pasture. His hay yard and corrals adjoin it so in a heavy snow year, it's also his feed lot.. (he spreads on top of the snow in long lines so they don't mud up an area).
This is also where he calves about 150 head, which really brings in the coyotes. The wranglers and neighbors shoot what they can but no one can afford a suppressed rifle or night scope, so the calves get hammered.
Of course they're here year around so you can't leave your cats outside or your dogs loose, ya gotta kennel them at night. They do clean up my wind fall apples but I don't like a pack singing a hundred feet from the house at 3AM.
The only dogs that would get near them would be feral strays. Everyone has a cow dog or two, but they are only off the truck to work. The only other thing in danger would be badgers, skunks or wolves. Yes, we get wolves occasionally. (I need a suppressor).
I'm not motivated to go out on the range and shoot them for sport, but in my case, I'm glad to see them available again.
Forgot, I shot one off the back porch this spring that was sick with something last year. Took it way out in the sagebrush and buried it pretty deep."
"As I live on the (literal) wildland urban interface, we have plenty of coyotes. My neighbor to the west has an 80ac pivot that he hays twice a year and uses it for winter pasture. His hay yard and corrals adjoin it so in a heavy snow year, it's also his feed lot.. (he spreads on top of the snow in long lines so they don't mud up an area).
This is also where he calves about 150 head, which really brings in the coyotes. The wranglers and neighbors shoot what they can but no one can afford a suppressed rifle or night scope, so the calves get hammered.
Of course they're here year around so you can't leave your cats outside or your dogs loose, ya gotta kennel them at night. They do clean up my wind fall apples but I don't like a pack singing a hundred feet from the house at 3AM.
The only dogs that would get near them would be feral strays. Everyone has a cow dog or two, but they are only off the truck to work. The only other thing in danger would be badgers, skunks or wolves. Yes, we get wolves occasionally. (I need a suppressor).
I'm not motivated to go out on the range and shoot them for sport, but in my case, I'm glad to see them available again.
Forgot, I shot one off the back porch this spring that was sick with something last year. Took it way out in the sagebrush and buried it pretty deep."
SquirrelShooter
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Yeah they need Windypants come stay a week or so.
It sounds like they could use some good control work done, some snares and denning goes a long way in getting the numbers down. Ferral dogs do more calf killing than coyotes do from what I have seen they are really hard on lambs and sheep! A sound redirect tube isn't very expensive; you don't need a tax stamp, and it directs the majority of the sound down range better confusing the other animals they will do you some good till you can get a suppressor.
Here if a dog is not on a lead with a person, four hundred yards from a residence and chasing or harassing wildlife a law enforcement officer can legally kill it. I also got paid by the ranchers to shoot them when I saw them. I quit a job one time because I was told that I wasn't supposed to kill dogs that were killing sheep. I have hunted down dogs that were killing livestock, because their owners weren't keeping them from running. One rancher told a water well driller not to bring his dogs with him. He did anyway for one day till I shot one of them when they were chasing sheep about a quarter of a mile from the rig next to the two track road.
SquirrelShooter
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You know how much I love my dogs, and always have. However, as a kid, we didn't have coyotes; we had wild/stray dogs. I killed a lot of them.
A cattleman across the road said that a coyote could come out the woods with the cows lying down, and could come through them. If a dog were to come out, they would bunch up and get all nerved-out.
A cattleman across the road said that a coyote could come out the woods with the cows lying down, and could come through them. If a dog were to come out, they would bunch up and get all nerved-out.
