Tucker will make Liberal heads explode tomorrow !!

Coyote Shadow Tracker said:

In 2018-2019-2020 I was making more money in my 401k (Fidelity managed) every month than my salary as a Regional Director. Then the first quarter of 2021 my 401k tanked and lost 20-25%.
Even though I switched to an IRA and Fidelity moved the funds to due to the poor economy, I am still down over $150K since December 2020.
Hopefully this next election the "We the People" will wake up and put a new administration in to get the economy back on track. Close the Boarders, stop giving our hard earned taxes away to other nations and promoting/funding wars. The only people that have been making money are the politicians on both sides of the isle.

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Are you saying the stock market is fake then? I mean, all credit to trump the stock market was good while was prez, no question. But it's not media spin, just look at the actual stock market numbers for the last 3 years. They are not quite as good as trump but any index fund, the Dow, nasdaq, s&p 500 etc. are all way up in the last 3 years as well. So if you lost $150k under Biden then maybe you gambled on a couple bad stocks but overall the indexes show excellent performance. The numbers are not "the media", they come from the same place trumps numbers come from that anyone can look up for themselves. I hate Biden and his recent health situation is downright dangerous for the country. But if we are talking about the stock market, it's not an opinion, it's verifiably untrue that it's tanked under Biden, by using the same data you use for trump. Who again I agree had great stock performance under his presidency.

Greta06 said:

Who runs your 401k plan, because i want to sign with them. I just broke even this year after losing lots money while dumping piles in since trump left office. I can't believe you clowns are so brainwashed. One thing about it, dems stick together and are willing to go down with the ship....

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I do- T. Rowe Price Blue Chip Growth, secondary Fidelity Contrafund and a small position in Dodge & Cox International



My 401K made 41.22% and 36.17% last year respectively. I guess because I'm an independent I don't classify as a 'clown', which both extremes seem to be- frankly.

DP

Montana'eer said:

I guess because I'm an independent I don't classify as a 'clown', which both extremes seem to be- frankly.

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Yeah, Gallup has been doing a poll since early 2000s. Those identifying as independent keeps getting bigger and bigger. The moving average says we're about 1.5x the size of either of the current parties. Not surprising why we're seeing this level of noise. Something akin to death throes.

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Some people must be getting their investment advice from Bill O'Reilly or Fox News commercials because the market has been pretty hot.

Get ready for a short trade of some sort, maybe the DJ Futures.
Like a using a hedge in grains, to preserve what value is current.

The hot air balloon will run out of fuel soon, the indicators all point to that.
And the sentiment is always the most bullish the day before the trendline is broken, and key reversals begin.
"Long only" advisors, brokers etc that dont have the ability to move investments to cash, and use hedges or other safer places and offsets will get their azzezzs handed to them, but many keep collecting that fee of 1% or whatever.
All while telling you to prepare for a part of the normal cycle of "less gains".

Then the Fed drops interest rates to spur the economy. Or hopefully keeps our nostrils out of the water. And hopefully we can call it recession, not depression when the sun rises again one day down the road.
Paying taxes because of a realistic gain doesn't sound all bad compared to the risk some economists predict lies ahead.
Hindsight will give the perfect approach.
I don't see tangibles such as gold, land etc following the indexes. But when the world has a weak economy as a whole, commodities will certainly remain affordable.
As a farmer I hope my costs are in line with revenue. Domestic inflation hurts.

TheGuyUpHigh200 said:

Yeah, Gallup has been doing a poll since early 2000s. Those identifying as independent keeps getting bigger and bigger. The moving average says we're about 1.5x the size of either of the current parties. Not surprising why we're seeing this level of noise. Something akin to death throes.

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My son worked summer jobs as a handyman before he went off to grad school. He amassed over 40K in savings. When the big COVID dip hit we got him into T.Rowe Price Blue Chip. He's pretty well set (and he's got a degree in Mechanical Engineering on his way to a PhD). Thank-God he's an independent. It's beyond time to have a third party and put the clown shows out to pasture.

Montana'eer said:

I do- T. Rowe Price Blue Chip Growth, secondary Fidelity Contrafund and a small position in Dodge & Cox International

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My 401K made 41.22% and 36.17% last year respectively. I guess because I'm an independent I don't classify as a 'clown', which both extremes seem to be- frankly.

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So over the last 3 years you have averaged 8.24% over all your investments. Infaltion ran at 17% over those three years. Congratulations. If you think that's a good return party on.

Phil Rizzo said:

Get ready for a short trade of some sort, maybe the DJ Futures.
Like a using a hedge in grains, to preserve what value is current.

The hot air balloon will run out of fuel soon, the indicators all point to that.
And the sentiment is always the most bullish the day before the trendline is broken, and key reversals begin.
"Long only" advisors, brokers etc that dont have the ability to move investments to cash, and use hedges or other safer places and offsets will get their azzezzs handed to them, but many keep collecting that fee of 1% or whatever.
All while telling you to prepare for a part of the normal cycle of "less gains".

Then the Fed drops interest rates to spur the economy. Or hopefully keeps our nostrils out of the water. And hopefully we can call it recession, not depression when the sun rises again one day down the road.
Paying taxes because of a realistic gain doesn't sound all bad compared to the risk some economists predict lies ahead.
Hindsight will give the perfect approach.
I don't see tangibles such as gold, land etc following the indexes. But when the world has a weak economy as a whole, commodities will certainly remain affordable.
As a farmer I hope my costs are in line with revenue. Domestic inflation hurts.

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but I've been in the T. Rowe Price blue chip growth fund since the mid to late nineties with an average lifetime return of 12%, through multiple economic cycles. I stick with blue chips and growth funds. Commodities are too **** volatile for me. And they secret sauce to investing in a fund? Look at the management team. That's the Willy Wonka golden ticket.

2buffalo said:

So over the last 3 years you have averaged 8.24% over all your investments. Infaltion ran at 17% over those three years. Congratulations. If you think that's a good return party on.



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It's better than most, no? It's a good return for blue chips and heading out of the inflationary period looks great for recapturing. Plus, I've been in the funds for over 20+ years, so maybe you should look at the long-term relation to return vs. inflation. I'm very much ahead of the curve. How did your investments perform relative to inflation? Plus I'm not an average consumer. I have little in need other than staples. I have freezers full of meat and we have a larder full of canned veggies. The only sector that really went up for us is energy. The only debt we have is a mortgage fixed at 3.25%.

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Are you saying the stock market is fake then? I mean, all credit to trump the stock market was good while was prez, no question. But it's not media spin, just look at the actual stock market numbers for the last 3 years. They are not quite as good as trump but any index fund, the Dow, nasdaq, s&p 500 etc. are all way up in the last 3 years as well. So if you lost $150k under Biden then maybe you gambled on a couple bad stocks but overall the indexes show excellent performance. The numbers are not "the media", they come from the same place trumps numbers come from that anyone can look up for themselves. I hate Biden and his recent health situation is downright dangerous for the country. But if we are talking about the stock market, it's not an opinion, it's verifiably untrue that it's tanked under Biden, by using the same data you use for trump. Who again I agree had great stock performance under his presidency.

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I didn't say Trump or Biden. President's policies and the people that they put in positions in their administration effect the economy. In the years 2018, 2019, 2020 we had very good gains. Then in we lost a heck of a lot more than $150k starting in 2021. The management team from Fidelity has "World" investments and over the past year to 18 months the drain stopped and we started to make some gains back from other worldwide investments. Starting in mid 2021 I had monthly meetings with my investment team all the way up to mid 2023 and got information on the the world econmy and how our Country was effecting markets.
You can lay the blame on a Presidency with the polices that were instituted and the economic team that is controlling the Fed.

It is just not me that took losses from the poor policies and incompetent economic teams, but millions of American citizens.

2buffalo said:

So over the last 3 years you have averaged 8.24% over all your investments. Infaltion ran at 17% over those three years. Congratulations. If you think that's a good return party on.



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Reminds me of the word salad that comes from DC. THE Spin Zone.
It's good, because I said it's good. Don't pay attention to those polls, surveys, experts, economic data etc. Many of the sheep, lacking fundamental understanding or experience in actually earning a living are believers.
"We are doing what's best for you" just sit back and watch. And vote for us again please…
The Me and Free crowd has the nation as a whole in last place of their concerns. So they can vote for their very temporary wishes to come true. And they sure do.
Until the boat doesn't float anymore.
Every country that headed down this road ended in the same horrible predicament.
Yet we find ourselves speeding in the same direction.
There is only one hiccup on the radar, and for fear of being beat in an election they might not even be able to rig and win, the opposers create all kinds of legal hurdles, yet his supporters don't waiver. We know what is taking place.
He may very well have his own interests in mind, but if it means a more safe and prosperous nation as a whole, as I've said before, I do not care.
Business people tend to use a business approach, politicians use a political approach.
We are at a precipitous location in time.

Coyote Shadow Tracker said:

I didn't say Trump or Biden. President's policies and the people that they put in positions in their administration effect the economy. In the years 2018, 2019, 2020 we had very good gains. Then in we lost a heck of a lot more than $150k starting in 2021. The management team from Fidelity has "World" investments and over the past year to 18 months the drain stopped and we started to make some gains back from other worldwide investments.
You can lay the blame on a Presidency with the polices that were instituted and the economic team that is controlling the Fed.

It is just not me that took losses from the poor policies and incompetent economic teams, but millions of American citizens.

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I guess I'm a genius because I just did index funds. Took me about 3 minutes to choose and I'm not Warren buffet but I'm making money not losing $150k.