Phil Rizzo
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Update on the Super Pigs
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Double Naught Spy
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Deer mostly eat stuff and rub on some trees and that is their damage. Hogs eat grown plants. Hogs eat sprouts. Hog eat seeds. Hogs will root up the ground for freshly planted seeds. Hogs will root up the ground for insect. Hogs raid ground nests for eggs. Rooting promotes erosion. Hogs are tied to higher levels of pollutants in local streams. It can really suck when you plant 40 acres of seeds and come out the next morning and 10 acres are rooted, then more the next night.
I hunt for a lot of ranchers in north Texas. Some are hunters, themselves. Not a single one would opt to keep feral hogs.
Yes, deer do cause damage. Adding in something else more damaging (as well as being invasive) to the mix isn't a good idea from a conservation perspective.
Hugnot
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This means something bigger than a .20P with 40 Vmax bullets.
victor3ranger
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Funny how people think that have never actually had to deal with them 
The only thing inferior in a pigs senses are their eyesight. They have excellent hearing and a sense of smell to rival most dogs, but they are as blind as Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder.
Our family farm has been in the family approaching 130yrs. My great grandfather settled the place. In the mid to late 90s I told my dad that I was certain we had wild pigs in the river bottom pecan orchard. His response at the time was, I lived on this farm for close 60yrs and I have never seen a wild pig. Our property butted up to a 3500ish acres government piece of property and the north end of a major lake. I set up cameras, the old 35mm film ones, nothing. I put out bait, nothing. I even bought some of best you could afford at the time Gen 1 night vision, nothing. I decided to sit in the deer blind, even slept in it in hopes of figuring out what was eating the corn and sweet feed. Took about 3 - 4 nights and I finally shot a boar. I tried to drag it with my 4 wheeler, no dice. I finally went and got the front end loader and hauled it to the house. I showed my dad and his first words out of his mouth were, can you find me a revolver to carry when I go fishing. I killed a ton of pigs that year, I had recovered upwards of 90, shot 1/2 as many more and they still were as thick as thieves. I had Hamilton Meat Market process a ton of them, ended up buying 2 chest freezers for the meat. I gave away hundreds of pounds and even traded the processing fees for some of the donated sausage. The most impressive were two sows I shot and I ended up with 386lbs of ground breakfast sausage out of those 2. I was excited about it for about 2 months and then it got old quick. I refuse to eat them and I kill everyone I get a chance to.
You can have them in an area and when you realize what to actually look for, it can be very subtle at times, depending on what they are foraging on, it is too late.
Buffalobwana
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Buffalobwana
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Hunting is not an effective management tool for controlling hogs. If you get more than one out of a herd, you have done well. I have managed to take 2 to 3 at a time, but you have to have the right conditions.
Trapping makes a huge difference. Hunting only educates the pigs, but it's better than nothing and great fun for everyone.
Trapping makes a huge difference. Hunting only educates the pigs, but it's better than nothing and great fun for everyone.
Yes it does and it's not overly complicated or hard to do.
Built a figure six trap and finished it about 8pm that night, baited it with corn and chicken grains. Presto, trapped and shot 5 pigs the next morning. Henrietta made sure I got a picture while I was at the dealership getting my oil changed. I can also tell you, having 10rd mags going against 5 pigs wasn't the ideal situation once they broke the trap open and exited towards towards me. The two I shot at muzzle length distance both made it about 60yds to the west side of the property where they got a second round for their efforts, the third one made a hard 90º out of the gap and got two for the effort and made it into the trees behind the trap.
From my previous post discussing the 6 ARC. They busted the 14ga galvanized electric fence wire that was wrapped around the T-Post in 3 places, top, middle and bottom. Panels were inside the T-posts and overlapped at each post.
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trapper1954
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Well sir they can take below zero, snow and ice. Any of you guys ever see a grass/thatch hut these hog build for shelter? Trappers are catching 40-50 in a single drop on cell traps, helo's are shooting 100's per flight, how would you measure this problem. If you are raising anything for a profit that's livestock, exotics, crops, the hogs will eat you out of business. I have personally seen at a corn feeder a boar come out of the tall grass and take after an axis doe that was eating corn and 15 minutes later doe came circling back by running full out, mouth open and tongue hanging out and boar steadily gaining ground. This was on a property where I was working and this feeder was in front of the house and set for lunch time entertainment. They will destroy the turkey populations by wrecking out the nest and eating the eggs, they eat fawns, lambs, goats and I suspect calves as well plus wreck out the fence to get in. I road on a combine cutting milo a few years back in DHanis Texas and in the middle of the field there were acres of nada, just rough plowed earth. You cant afford to loose 25% of a field crop nor 1/2 of a herd of anything. I was daylight calling on a place on the Seco and heard somthing on my left and it was a 200# class black Russian boar sneakin up on me at 20'. They are predators no doubt. They are eatable and no season, feed the hungry.I have no doubt these SUPER PIGS wont make it because a BOMB STORM or some other made up media grab ya title will wipe them out. Now if they were just regular wild pigs.....a standard blizzard should take care of them.
trapper1954
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good work
Buffalobwana
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That "6" trap is super easy, not too expensive and very effective.
I leave it open for a few weeks so the entire herd gets used to coming in and out. Then wedge it open with a stick and a trip wire at the far end. Even if tripped, they will still push it open even if it closes
Kill the sounder and you make a huge leap in eliminating the problem, shoot just a few, the effort goes up exponentially while the success rate goes down.
I shot probably 120-150 before I decided to build a trap of some sort.
Never under stood the small metal frame trap guys, 2-5 fit in one of those small traps. Put that money towards cattle or horse panels, T-posts and heavy galvanized electric fence wire and build a big trap.
My first figure 6 trap I built back in the 90s was 60ft across, made it using 20ft horse panels, each panel overlapped the outer panel by 1/2 their length, 7ft T-posts every 5ft around the outside perimeter and driven 4ft into the ground. I caught over 40 the first time we set. I told my dad to take his AR and a couple of mags and go check it. He opted instead for his Winchester 30-30 lever rifle since it open sights. He called and said we had a bunch in the trap, I said shoot them, he says, I don't think I have enough ammo. He guessed at the 40 head count. Luckily I built in a quick opening cable in case one of the cows or calves got in the trap. He pulled open the flap and they bolted. I put a IBC tote and a water trough in their and just waited until I got home from work to shoot them from then on. Besides, they didn't lay there all day getting ripe before I could drag them off and leave them in one of the gullys.
I can tolerate a coyote, fox, bobcat or coon, but I absolutely hate pigs.
Buffalobwana
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I stopped using enclosed hog traps after catching deer a couple times.
Killing a buck from stress ain't worth the pigs I get rid of.
So, just cut the tops off, but be careful! A big boar will find a way to get to you in an open top trap. Even a180 lb boar is an absolutely frightening creature when he's angry!
Killing a buck from stress ain't worth the pigs I get rid of.
So, just cut the tops off, but be careful! A big boar will find a way to get to you in an open top trap. Even a180 lb boar is an absolutely frightening creature when he's angry!
I have only propped one open for a short period, after that I use cheap molasses from the cattle lick poured in into the arm of the 6 along with corn and maybe some sweet feed, they just walk and eat right into the trap. They don't even realize they are caught until the food runs out, alot of times they just lay down and take a nap, especially if you build it where there is plenty of shade.
