Fawn Killer Gets Lead Poisoning, Is that a good thing?

[Okanogan]

I tend to wake up early and today was cool in central Washington so I had the windows open. Long before the sun crested the ridge behind the house, I hear what sounds like a couple of fawn bawling. I look out the window and easily spot a doe and two fawns running flat out a couple hundred yards away. I pulled out the binoculars and quickly picked out about 8 distressed deer (does and fawns) pinned up near a fence across the canyon north of my place. I suspect coyote so I go to the safe and pull out the Valkyrie. By the time I can get geared up the fawn bawling has quit and most of the deer have left except for one doe and fawn that keep hanging around. I'm 90% sure I know what happened so I hang around with a spotting scope and the Valkyrie. A case of 250 yd 80.5 grain lead poisoning occurs a little later.
I personally am kind of a live and let live kind of guy concerning coyotes but I certainly enjoy the deer in my yard a whole lot more than whatever mice the coyotes are killing out in the hills. I'm interested in what our forum thinks of coyotes, and how proactive one should be in dealing with them.

 

[Hawkeye Pierce]

I also prefer the deer. to many parasites in yotes lol

 

[MNbogboy]

Coyote are just as bad as wolves,
Neither canine is good for game populations.

 

[shootallday]

Kill as many you see, they breed like rabbits, they even have found the more pressure there is the more pups they have. That's why they weren't knocked out like wolf's and bears from early Settlers.

 

[Muddyboots]

I have been getting several on camera during day in my yard so I now have .243 ready to go. I have 2 little granddaughters that play within 50 yards of camera when they visit so I will take care of business.

 

[Deleted member 115360]

You have to reduce the population by 75% in one generation to even begin to reduce the overall population. I hunt them 100+ days a year. Kill every one you see. The yotes you stumble into are the dumb ones anyways. The smart ones ate their deer last night out of sight of your house.

 

[LVJ76]

Kill them all!

 

[Okanogan]

I'm taking the feedback thus far as good riddance, which pretty much mirrors the feedback from the landowner to my north who runs cows in the canyon. I'll keep an eye on the dead fawn and see what else shows up before day light fades today.

 

[Coyote Shadow Tracker]

You have to reduce the population by 75% in one generation to even begin to reduce the overall population. I hunt them 100+ days a year. Kill every one you see. The yotes you stumble into are the dumb ones anyways. The smart ones ate their deer last night out of sight of your house.

Coyotes can kill 75% of the deer new born and you can kill 75% of the coyotes and still have a stable population of Yotes!
A pack just killed my neighbors dog (25lbs) at 8:00PM two nights ago. Their dog was just out for 15 minutes and they tore to pieces. They called me to warn us for our outside cat Oreo and Samson. Samson -Bernese Mountain Dog (raised to kill wolves, coyotes and protect livestock) is 145lbs and killed several coyotes already, but when you get 3-4-5 coyotes they can take a large dog and deer down.
I now have a vendetta against all the Yotes in our area. Also there was about 250 hogs killed behind my house between us and our neighbor. Now there were two large boars on my friends house down the road several months ago and I didn't get a chance or bother to shoot them. Now there are about 20 hogs/piglets there and unless I shoot them I would say in another 2 months after breeding 40-60 hogs will be there. If I get the chance to put up another two person tree stand up. I'll invite a few of you to hunt.

 

[Starboard277]

Most people I know here in nm shoot every yote they get a chance to shoot. I know quite a few people living in Rio Rancho that have had their dogs and cats mutilated and killed by yotes but they don't seem to want to kill them. The ranchers I know are always on the lookout for them. I am of the mindset that I kill if I am going to eat or in defense of a human but I kill every yote that I can. Looks like the one on the left may have been a Texas heart shot. Nice.

 

[jpfrog]

Coyotes can kill 75% of the deer new born and you can kill 75% of the coyotes and still have a stable population of Yotes!
A pack just killed my neighbors dog (25lbs) at 8:00PM two nights ago. Their dog was just out for 15 minutes and they tore to pieces. They called me to warn us for our outside cat Oreo and Samson. Samson -Bernese Mountain Dog (raised to kill wolves, coyotes and protect livestock) is 145lbs and killed several coyotes already, but when you get 3-4-5 coyotes they can take a large dog and deer down.
I now have a vendetta against all the Yotes in our area. Also there was about 250 hogs killed behind my house between us and our neighbor. Now there were two large boars on my friends house down the road several months ago and I didn't get a chance or bother to shoot them. Now there are about 20 hogs/piglets there and unless I shoot them I would say in another 2 months after breeding 40-60 hogs will be there. If I get the chance to put up another two person tree stand up. I'll invite a few of you to hunt.

Send me your location and I'll bring my own tools!
And some VV 24N41 for that big stick you're building...

 

[Muddyboots]

This is why I need to get after them.

 

[Coyote Shadow Tracker]

Send me your location and I'll bring my own tools!
And some VV 24N41 for that big stick you're building...

I have a few members that I said i would take hog hunting, but then the hogs were gone from the back of our house. If I get this set up on my neighbors property we will invite as long as the hogs stay around and not shot out by other neighbors. I used to time them with my cameras for the area and then set friend's kids up in a stand. They always go some hogs. I have Night vision scope on my Coyote 223 and hand held inferred. Put a bullet two inches below the ear and they fold up like a lawn chair. Don't move after that.
BTW I did get several 338 -33" 1:9.35 barrels in and will turn them as soon as I get some actions and McMillin Stocks.
We are renovating our gunsmith shop with all new State of the ART GRIZZLY equipment G0824 with DRO Lathe, G0759 DRO Power Head Mill, Band Saw, Drill Press and complete new Cerekote STATE of the ART operation with a Global Finishing Solutions® (GFS) Spray Booth, Custom Digital Oven, Quincey Air. Should be ready to re-start Custom Chambering and Cerekoting within the next month.

 

[Coyote Shadow Tracker]

Coyote are just as bad as wolves,
Neither canine is good for game populations.

I think wolves have a place in the chain of life. I know ranchers and elk/deer hunter may have a different opinion, but nature has a balancing system. Wolves take out the sick elk ect. We all know the equitation. In nature there has to be a balance. When one species get more abundant well another has to go. We can debate this until the end of time.
I do think that coyotes are much much more devastating than wolves. One you don't see wolves in downtown Atlanta. I have worked with wolves in captivity/wild and they are a very timid animal, coyotes are opposite. Wolves only breed to keep their pack within what the area has for food. Coyotes breed like rats. The more you kill the more they breed.
Don't get me wrong, but I respect all animals. Over 50+ years of hunting I don't just want to shoot and kill something just to kill it-UNLESS there is a purpose to kill it. I like to eat wild game! I have killed squirrels because they destroyed my wiring on my truck and tractor (shot over 250 but cooked them), shot 10 of dozens of hogs (ate some, but not the big boars), killed every coyote I have seen and never ate them.
Would love to shoot a Wolf if it was in an area where they were a problem and there was a population to keep them in check.
Just remember if we, as hunters now, Kill everything, what will be left for future generations!!!!!