WSM Feeding Problems"

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  1. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    All you WSM owners. I'm doing a little survey on WSM feeding. I've read some rumors about WSM having feeding problems. I would appreciate if you check in to either confirm or deny this and with what make and model rifle.

    My Finnlight cycles like butter.

    Thanks for the help,

    -MR
     
  2. Mikecr

    Mikecr Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure it could be a problem for a Remington, but less with Winchester type designs.
    I worked with a 300WSM from a Savage action, and they did just what was needed; Controlled round push feed, and standing blade ejection. They also used a larger diameter tennon, to get enough barrel steel around the chamber, and the rear port section was extended a bit.
    I had a one-off Bat action made with these attributes for my 6.5wssm.

    You need CRPF so that the rim slips up into a relieved section of boltface(from magazines). This captures an otherwise free round, and with that, controls where the round is pointing. Push feed type extractors enable single-shot action. Button ejection is deleted because that would tilt any round off center of chamber. Standing blade ejection at the back of the action tilts the case out of the port -when needed. The port needs to be back far enough so that an ejecting case does not bounce off of it, causing forward ejection, or worse an empty free case remaining in the action. This would be an immediately jamming condition.
    The tennon needs to provide for magnum cartridges, or else the large diameter chamber will expand too much on firing and brass extraction becomes a problem.

    Basic gun design comes into play with short magnums. You can't just throw them together like common cartridge guns, and expect the same results. Short magnum actions are different.
    That said, someone is firing up to declare contradictions with their gun. It can be managed differently. But some have not addressed details needed(including manufacturers), and their results cause panic about short magnum feeding issues.
     
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  3. Seven Oaks

    Seven Oaks Well-Known Member

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    I have Browning X-Bolt in 7MM WSM and haven't run into any feeding problems yet. I've only been shooting the rifle about a week now.

    The Browing reciever design makes single feeding tough, so I just load up the mag and cycle thru. 60 rounds thru it and no trouble so far..

    It's a push feed design so you don't need to be to dainty with it when cycling.

    Like most 3 lug designs it does have somewhat of a hard bolt lift.

    Best,

    D.
     
  4. learning

    learning Well-Known Member

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    I haven't had any problems with my 270 wsm feeding, although I had a243 wssm that didn't feed very well at all.
     
  5. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated. And thanks a lot for the technical insight Mikecr. I'm always learning good stuff here.

    -MR
     
  6. Topshot

    Topshot Well-Known Member

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    P.M. sent.
     
  7. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    When the WSMs,WSSMs and SAUMs first came out they had some issues because the were
    still using staggered magazines and they did not want to hold more than one round.

    Some rifle makers went to center feed mags and flat flowers like the Weatherbys had been
    using on there 378 style cases and the problem was solved.

    If you buy an older rifle or one that uses the staggered magazine this is the easy way to make
    it feed well because you can adjust the mag box instead of the rails.

    In-line feeding is easy on brass and bullets and works with push feed or control feed.

    On all of the short mag builds I install center feed mag boxes because they can be adjusted
    well and they prevent the second round from interfearing with the first during loading.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  8. Shortmagman

    Shortmagman Well-Known Member

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    I own four Shortmag rifles. Two are Winchesters,a 270WSM, and a 300WSM. I have a Ruger 77 Mark II in 300 WSM, and a Remington 700 in 7mm SAUM.

    I have had feeding problems with the Remington 700. Two times I have shot at a deer and the gun failed to feed the second round. I have retired that gun to the gun safe and only bring it out to shoot paper targets. The Remington is a push feed as you know.

    My two Winchesters feed great and so does the Ruger. When I head to Wyoming on my elk hunt in Oct.. I will take my Ruger 77 Mark II. It feed almost as well as the Ruger 77 Mark II in 7mm Rem Mag that I will be taking as a back up.

    The only reason I will not be using my Winchester Model 70 in 300 WSM is that it is too heavy(Coyote Model).
     
  9. britz

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    I only have one tikka 300wsm and have no problems with feeding. It isn't CRF but it is a single stack bullet magazine which is the key from what I've read.
     
  10. jcoop

    jcoop Well-Known Member

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    I have had 4 WSMs and the three Savage's (centerfeed and staggard feed) have fed perfectly and one Remington would not feed at all.
     
  11. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    Which Remington was that and what year was it?
     
  12. jcoop

    jcoop Well-Known Member

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    It was new about 4 years ago (could have been old stock) and started as an sps, it did not function new. Then it was re barreled and and re stocked but still did not feed or extract very well.
     
  13. Boss Hoss

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    I have 2 a 6.5 and a 300 both customs that feed smooth as silk but when they were being built it took a little more work. Mine were both built using H&S Magazines.
     
  14. 700xcr

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    I had a problem with the Remington mod. 700xcr in 270wsm. Fixed it with a Watts single stack box magazine. After that it feeds like butter.:D