How much Energy is needed to take an hog ?
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Anybody used a AK-Slide Fire Stock on a group of hogs yet? I know that's cheating but a Saiga Shotgun doesn't seem fare either. You always see videos of a herd under a feeder on the edge of the brush and I wonder how much fun that would be, then all the work starts.
My coworker has a slide fire bump stock on his AR and we've never even considered it for hunting. If you just want to eradicate pigs and don't care if you wound them and they die hours later, then by all means go ahead. Hogs are such a problem in some places that you just do whatever you have to do. I don't see us ever using a slide fire while hunting.
Here's (2) Longe Range pigs taken with a 7.62x54R this is my first attempt with flickr because the new user agreement with photobucket is NUTS, so if I screw this up forgive me. [ame="http://www.flickr.com/photos/338ken/6987980404/"]DragonovPigs2 | Flickr - Photo Sharing![/ame] <a href="[ame="http://www.flickr.com/photos/338ken/6987980404/"]DragonovPigs2 | Flickr - Photo Sharing![/ame]" title="DragonovPigs2 by 338ken, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8168/6987980404_5f81b3e5a9.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DragonovPigs2"></a>
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sokpoke
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Not much. Most of my hogs are taken with a .204 Ruger shooting .32 gr. V-Max factory loads from Hornady. CZ 527 American rifle.
Have killed several with .17 HMR
Shot placement is everything. Place it in the soft spot behind the ear and even 200 lb. hogs @ 100 yds. will drop.
A friend from Arkansas harvested these two pigs with my CZ .204. Sow on left will push 200 lbs.
Our sows usually don't get this big, but since the others were nursing small pigs and this one wasn't, I'm guessing she was barren.
Have killed several with .17 HMR
Shot placement is everything. Place it in the soft spot behind the ear and even 200 lb. hogs @ 100 yds. will drop.
A friend from Arkansas harvested these two pigs with my CZ .204. Sow on left will push 200 lbs.
Our sows usually don't get this big, but since the others were nursing small pigs and this one wasn't, I'm guessing she was barren.
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Trickymissfit
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that's right around 800 ft. lb. of energy @ 100 yards (estimate), but also with a poor quality sectional density and cross section. Try that on a 300+ lb. boar.
Where as a typical 30-30 shooting a 150 grain Hornaday will have 1069 ft. lb at the same distance. The Speer 150 grain bullet at 2200 fps will have 1200ft. lb. of energy. On the otherhand a .444 Marlin lever gun shooting 265 grain bullets (just the generic flat pointed solid nosed bullets) will have 1670 ft. lb. of energy. The 300 grain bullet at 2100 fps (safe load) will have 2200 ft. lb. of energy at 100 yards. I know exactly which direction I'd be headed 100% of the time especially with a 300+ pound Tenessee hog. They just don't run around or get back up with anykind of a chest shot.
I know of more than one person that walks with a limp due to a boar being in a bad state of mind.
gary
Where as a typical 30-30 shooting a 150 grain Hornaday will have 1069 ft. lb at the same distance. The Speer 150 grain bullet at 2200 fps will have 1200ft. lb. of energy. On the otherhand a .444 Marlin lever gun shooting 265 grain bullets (just the generic flat pointed solid nosed bullets) will have 1670 ft. lb. of energy. The 300 grain bullet at 2100 fps (safe load) will have 2200 ft. lb. of energy at 100 yards. I know exactly which direction I'd be headed 100% of the time especially with a 300+ pound Tenessee hog. They just don't run around or get back up with anykind of a chest shot.
I know of more than one person that walks with a limp due to a boar being in a bad state of mind.
gary
sokpoke
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On larger boars, or hogs at 200 yds. plus, I have had a few run a ways before dieing, but when I do my part and strategically place it right behind the ear, a frangible bullet traveling at 4,200+ fps creates devastating hydrostatic pressure anywhere near the jugular or brain.
With larger calibers (.243 and up), I don't have to be so precise with shot placement.
With larger calibers (.243 and up), I don't have to be so precise with shot placement.
WildRose
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While I certainly wouldn't reccomend it for everyone, if you can place your shots precisely the .204 and .220 swift will get the job done.
I've killed literally dozens of 300lbs plus hogs with those two calibers.
Here's two killed with factory hornady 32gr VMax. Put it just behind and below the ear and out to 400yds it's over.
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Nice shot, nice pigs. I use a bigger caliber because where we hunt we use a old Army Jeep to cover more area. The pigs there travel alot and you'll see them one night and then maybe not again in that spot for a couple of weeks. So staying in a stand or blind is usually worthless. Only the smart pigs survive, the rest are in the freezer. But then you're taking moving or running shots, so that sweet spot behind the ear is gone. I have had faster drops with the AK round that even a .308 I guess big and slow expends all the energy, instead of passing thru.
sokpoke
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Nice work!Is that a CZ? I shoot a CZ 527 American for the close work. By the way, the vehicle license and the landscape look like south Texas. I spent 5 years in Carrizo Springs.
