Hand loading for hire?

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  1. RockyMtnMT

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    Curious if any of you have done this and what you charge? I have a guy that would like me to develop loads for his rifles. One of his rifles I already have dies for, the other I do not. Should I have him buy the dies, or should I buy them and figure it into the price of load development? I am figuring on charging for material and then some figure for labor. The labor is the one I am struggling with.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.

    Steve
     
  2. MT4XFore

    MT4XFore Well-Known Member

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    I absolutely love to reload. It's my anti-depressant for this wierd world we live in. I reload my friends stuff for nothing. They buy the components and dies (if necessary) and I do the rest. It's good for me and good for them.
     

  3. eddybo

    eddybo Well-Known Member

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    I do not do either reloading or devolopment for others. I will however assist and teach them to do it themselves. I have at least half a dozen guys who reload thier stuff using my equipment, but supply thier own componants. This arrangement has not been a problem at all, well except for that die that doublegobble stuck.....but he is worth the trouble since he keeps my game cams going.:)

    The cost for me to load for someone would be cost prohibitive unless they prepped thier own brass. I know someone who works up loads and loads for others and only charges a couple bucks a round for his time and fifty bucks for the initial workup.
     
  4. Boss Hoss

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    Let me just say this----I will help anyone--drive for a couple of hours even BUT I will not load for anyone else period.

    As an example --- an accident occurs you name it even something that you would not even consider to be associated with anything that I had to do with. In today’s society you can rest assured that someone’s, parents, widow, son or daughter would come after you. Money is money. After the Lawyers got finished telling the family that they need to go after me guess what I am out a significant sum plus my time.


    NOT WORTH THE RISK!!!
     
  5. BountyHunter

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    Good way to lose a car, house and all your $$$$!

    Better call your insurance agent and ask him how much that is going to cost!

    BH
     
  6. bigg_sexy1

    bigg_sexy1 Well-Known Member

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    I think that I would be more inclined to have him over, and show him how to do it, and after maybe help him purchase his own set up.
     
  7. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    Bosshoss is dead on ( Pardon the pun )

    I will work up loads for a rifle and shoot them myself.and when an accuracy load
    is found then I will give the load data to the owner with 1 less grain of powder and
    tell him to reload with care because it's a max load and I have records of the test.

    I would never load for anyone else because of the liability

    I don't have much but it is mine and I intend to keep it.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  8. royinidaho

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    I used to load for friends, but had trouble keeping them as friends.

    For example: Friend had a trophy antelope hunt. Lined up on the trophy goat. 6 miss fires before the 7th nailed the goat. Investigation revealed that I had used the small rifle primer seater in the large rifle insert in the Lee priming tool. The cartridge was a 300 Wby.

    Example: Didn't notice that a primer was inserted upside down. Friend missed a nice muley. Cartridge was a 270 Win.

    I'll load 'em for testing, tuning and drop chart validation but I do all the shooting. They come over and do the loading for real while I provide the QC.

    Of my one reloads I've had only one miss fire. That was at a bedded elk, two years ago and was of no consequence. Cartridge was a 338 RUM, US-869 and Fed 215m primers. Investigation show'd no reason for the miss fire.:confused:
     
  9. MagMan

    MagMan Well-Known Member

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    Roy, It would be tough staying friends after something like that. See what happens when you try to do favors for friends.
     
  10. Russ M

    Russ M Well-Known Member

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    if you are still hell bent on hand loading for others at least get them to sign a wayver explaining the risks
     
  11. royinidaho

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    We're still friends. I just don't reload for other any longer.

    I've never hand anything go wrong for me. Just for others. Then only once.

    I'm with J.E. on this one.
     
  12. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    I do it for two of my friends one is an army buddy and the other is a police officer. I worked up the loads at the range with them so they saw how it was done and what the risk was. I charged them a little cash for the use of my supplies. Once we had a load for there rifles I told them were to get the bullets, powder, primers and brass. I still let them use my dies and press but now they just come over and we reload together. That way they can’t blame me and we have double redundancy.
     
  13. buzzgun

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    Reloading or manufacturing ammo for profit requires a federal license!

    ATF Online - Firearms FAQs

    H. MANUFACTURERS

    (H4) Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer? [Back]

    Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a) (i) and 923(a), 27 CFR 478.41]
     
  14. Boss Hoss

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    That would be worthless in a Court of Law. You cannot indemnify yourself against negligence which is what this would be most likely---what else would you go for because this is what will give you the most return in litigation!! It would be easy to prove and you were breaking Federal Law after all.