brass jacketed rifle bullets

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by vendetta333, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. vendetta333

    vendetta333 Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone make them. it would seem that they would aliviate many of the problems.with copper jackets such as fouling. Idk if they would act like bore rider solids or.not. but would seem a good.idea for.match shooters as one wouldnt have to worry about the bullet coming apart. amd if skivved right could make a nice controlled expantion lrh bullet. thoughts?
     
  2. SidecarFlip

    SidecarFlip Well-Known Member

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    You can buy one off handmade projectiles but you pronanly can't afford them. There is a whoe bunch of geometry and mechining practice that goes into a projectile if, it's hand made.

    I make 50 caliber sabots for black powder rifles btw. Only for friends.
     

  3. Varminator 911

    Varminator 911 Well-Known Member

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    CEB, Cutting Edge Bullets, makes brass bullets: Cutting Edge Bullets

    But they aren't lead core. There are solids for big dangerous game, hollow points, and some that can be loaded both ways, hollow or flat nose forward. Also a plastic tip can be put into the hollow end to increase BC. The later for things like plains game in Africa. Some think they are the best bullets ever. When hollow point forward the bullet breaks into a few big shards and a solid. Scroll through this page, or many others in the post, to see the brass bullet after impact, it shatters rather than deform: http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4711043/m/2861098911/p/262


    I'd rather my bullets stay in one piece like a TSX, Swift, Accubond, or North Fork.
     
  4. vendetta333

    vendetta333 Well-Known Member

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    let me clarify. not brass bullets. not solids. identical construction to a traditional jacketed match bullet, but instead of swaged copper or gilding metal, brass. like remington golden saber defense ammo, but in a match bullet design. a BRASS JACKET.
     
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    Varminator 911 Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking that properly anneled brass might not be that much different than the gilding metal that most bullet makers already use.
     
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  6. Nimrodmar10

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    Old idea. Back in the day, benchrest shooters used Corbin Swagging Dies to make. 224" bullets out of expended 22 RF hulls. You cut lead wire to the correct length/weight, inserted it into the brass and swagged it into a .224 brass jacked bullet. It didn't copper foul the bore, it brass fouled it. Same difference.
     
  7. elkaholic

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    Brass is much more brittle than copper and doesn't work as well for lead core jacketed style bullets although some folks use 22 LR jackets to produce 22 cal. bullets cheaply. Most of the bullet makers use a little zinc (around 5%) mixed with the copper to reduce fouling.......Rich
     
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  9. Ridge Runner

    Ridge Runner Well-Known Member

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    hey guys, brass is copper with a bit of tin in it to make it harder, only difference, so it would foul like copper only be harder to remove due to the addition of tin.
    RR
     
  10. vendetta333

    vendetta333 Well-Known Member

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    my thoughts were that it being harder it would keep itself from fouling. i was thinking a properly thickness-ed jacket at the right hardness would act like a bore rider to a degree. so you dont have overly long bullets like brass or copper solids, but still less fouling and lower pressures. but i guess not?
     
  11. Ridge Runner

    Ridge Runner Well-Known Member

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    no its still "gliding metal" so unless its lubed it still gaulds to steel, lube it and its like that first shot from an oiled barrel.
    RR
     
  12. Catfur

    Catfur Well-Known Member

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    Actually copper with tin in it is bronze, not brass. Brass is copper alloyed with zinc. Gilding metal is a brass (95% copper 5% zinc).
     
  13. Ridge Runner

    Ridge Runner Well-Known Member

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    copper is also a gliding metal, is it not?
    RR
     
  14. Catfur

    Catfur Well-Known Member

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    Gilding, not gliding. Gilding metal is a specific term for the brass alloy of ~95% copper and ~5% zinc. It got it's name from its use in jewelry and the like.