Another Satisfied 338 Edge Owner

Discussion in 'Equipment Discussions' started by Qzilla, Nov 7, 2006.

  1. Qzilla

    Qzilla Well-Known Member

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    I don't post much due to time but, I really enjoy reading these forums. I am a gun nut and somewhat of a LRH nut. After reading about these 338 Edge guns I just had to try 1. Well actually 2 of them! I don't have the other one yet and it is for my Dad.

    Anyhow I recieved the rifle last Friday and due to a bunch of goofy stuff happening I did not get a chance to shoot it until this evening. The last thing that stopped me was that my powder scale quit me last night as I was preparing to go to a 1,000 yard range today. Well that did not happen obviously so I went and purchased a new scale and got home ASAP. Fortunately We have several hundred acres we live on and I felt that we would be able to at least set up a 100 yard target so I could play with it for a little bit.

    Well I got home, loaded some ammo and then set up a makeshift target (4'x4' piece of board with targets tape to it) and a pretty poor shooting table. I had about 10 minutes to get set up and shoot before my light was gone. Now my bench was just an old ragged table with 2 bags in front and 1 in the rear. Not bad but, not 100% desirable to see what a new gun would do.

    To start with I decided to get my zero at 100 yard. This took all of 2 shots (Good Job Shawn!). Next I decided to shoot a 3 shot group at 100 yards. Now keep in mind I was shooting pretty quickly because I was running out of time. Well I did not measure the next 3 shots but, it was 1 ragged hole!

    Well this got me pretty pumped up. I have many guns that shoot a ragged hole but, they are all much smaller calibers so I was really excited to try this thing at some range. Even though the sun was down we decided to run the target out to 500 yards (well 496 to be exact). I just had to do it.

    With light fading quickly I set up to shoot a 5 shot group if I could get it done in time. Luckily there was Zero wind to be measured on the Kestrel! I looked at my chart and dialed in 8.25 MOA and off I went. The light was good enough to see the target but, the glow from the sunset on the western horizon made it pretty tough. I took as much time as I could and touched off 5 rounds without much cooling time. I felt good about all 5 rounds but, I was skeptical since this was the 5th-10th round I had ever fired from this rifle.

    Well I about fell out of our Ranger when we pulled up to the target. The bullseye was about 1/2 dollar size and there were 2 holes inside of it. The other 3 were very close as well. I normally do not measure groups as I hunt with these rifles and do mot punch paper but, I could not resist. Now I am not sure I did it 100% correct but, the furthest shots were 3.657 center to center. You could easily lay a piece of 4"x4" paper over all 5 holes to cover them up.

    I was simply amazed and excited.

    After that we were pumped up enough to find enough room that we should be able to get at least 1000 yards tomorrow so I can start stretching this babies legs.

    I have seen others results and I was somewhat skeptical thinking maybe they were just phenominal shots or something else was up. I am here to tell you that I am a very average shooter. I get to shoot a lot but, I have never entered a match and for the most part I never really shoot paper. This thing seems to basically shoot itself!

    I am one very satisfied customer and want to give a lot of thanks to Shawn! He has went above and beyond and answered all of my dumb questions. He has a been a pleasure to work with and everything has went as planned. I am excited to recieve my other 2 rifles he is building me and I am sure there will plenty of other rifles in teh near future!

    Tomorrow I plan to shoot earlier and I will try to take some pictures of the targets.

    Also before you guys ask the gun is as follows:

    Rem 700 action
    Jewel Trigger
    30" Hart with Defensive Edge Brake (also this thing DOES NOT have any recoil!)
    HS Precision Stock (like the PSS)
    HS Precision Bottom Metal and Box Magazine
    Nightforce 8-32 NP-R2
    AIC Cosine Cosine Indicator
    All Work was done by Shawn Carlock at Defensive Edge.

    Hope this helps resolve any skeptisism about this cartridge or Shawns smithwork!

    Quad
     
  2. Qzilla

    Qzilla Well-Known Member

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    OK a short update.

    Had more time with better light tonight. Shot a 4 round 694 yard group that measures 3.315 center to center. I saved the target and I will post pictures of it tomorrow.

    If you measure 3 shots it measures 2.235 which is also very impresive.

    All of this was done off of a sandbag and a fold up table!

    All I can say is this thing is absolutely un-believable.

    Those panhandle deer better start packingup and moving out come Friday!
     

  3. Wild_Bill

    Wild_Bill Well-Known Member

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    Good shooting what loads are you using? are you using the 300gr Sierra?

    Cheers Bill
    Australia
     
  4. JD338

    JD338 Well-Known Member

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    Qzilla,

    Awesome shootiing!Post some pics of yoour rifle.
    I think my 338 RUM needs the Edge advantage. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    JD338
     
  5. Qzilla

    Qzilla Well-Known Member

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    I am shooting 92grs of H1000 with the 300gr MatchKings. I am seating them to 3.680 OAL. I am using CCI250 Magnum Large Rifle Primers.

    I will post some pictures this evening of the rifle as well as the target from yesterday. The rifle is not fancy right now although it still looks good. I had Shawn just do a bead blast finish because as soon as I have an extra couple of weeks to go without it I am having it dipped.
     
  6. steelhead

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    Qzilla,

    Very nice! I enjoyed reading about your EDGE. I'm loving my EDGE also and have had very similar results to yours.

    I would really like to see a picture of your rifle. I really like seeing all the various EDGE's that Shawn has built. He does a great job with all of them.

    Devin
     
  7. davewilson

    davewilson Well-Known Member

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    i too am very excited about this caliber. i just got mine operating(it's not finished but functionable)Shawn didn't build mine, Chris Mathews put my metal together and i did the rest.it's gonna be a shooter. 2" at 400 is the worst group i've shot so far. 92 gr of h1000, 250 primers, 300 SMK. seems to work for everyone.
     
  8. steelhead

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    Still waiting on pictures.......
     
  9. Qzilla

    Qzilla Well-Known Member

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    Sorry! Been hunting. I got all excited about the hunting and forgot all about the pictures. I am using a hosting site for the first time so bear with me.

    Here is a picture of the rifle. It is not really finished so to speak as I plan on dipping it after the season. Right now it is terribly dirty since I have not had time to clean it yet!!

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    Here is a picture of the target I spoke of before. I do not know if you can read the calipers or not?
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    And here is the only thing I have pulled the trigger on so far. The other side is pretty ugly as the 300gr SMK is sort of overkill for the coyote sized game! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif It was not a long range shot but, he was about 150yard trotting away from me.
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  10. TMR

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    Qzilla,

    How much does that rig weigh? Thinking about changing my STW over to an Edge.
     
  11. steelhead

    steelhead Well-Known Member

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    Very nice Qzila! Thanks for sharing. I'm always interested in what the other EDGE's out there look like.

    I really like your radial fluting. I almost went that route, but got the traditional fluting instead.

    I'm really happy with my EDGE also. It seems like I just can't miss with this rifle. I've shot all the way out to 1449 yards so far. I'm working up to 2000 yards. Only problem is, I've got to find a place to shoot that far. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
  12. wildcat

    wildcat Well-Known Member

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    Rifle-looks-awesome.

    Wildcat
     
  13. Qzilla

    Qzilla Well-Known Member

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    My rig weighed 14lbz 13oz as jsut a rifle and scope with a mag full of ammo. I have not weighed it with the bipod or the sling yet.

    I will say that it is heavier than I was used to carrying. I have about a 10-15lb pack including rattling horns and my average walk is at least 1 mile and it always seems to be uphill. I have cussed the rifle more than once on the hike in but, once I catch my breath I feel really confident that I have it sitting on the bluff with me. I would much rather do a little more work knwoing that anything inside 1000 yards is pretty much dead than hoping I can get them within 500 yards to be that confident with my other rifles.

    I went with the radial fluting first and foremost because it is cool looking and pretty different than most rifles. I also wanted to shave as much weight as Shawn thought he could.

    I own some nice rifles and some accurate rifles but, this is the first one that I am almost over confident with. Starting Wednesday I will be in South Texas and I normally shoot my 257 WBY because there is not too much long range stuff but, I plan on field testing it quiet a bit although most will be relatively short range.

    I plan on killing a Javelina or Hog at 500+ depending on what range I can get on one of the pipelines?


    I will also say that the work Shawn did is pretty awesome. I had a friend build a 338 Lapua Imp with a local gun builder and we went and shot today. His gun is nice and it shoots well but, once we started stretching our legs he was pretty embarresed to say the least. We really did not shoot group size and I am not sure how good he actually is with the rifle but, he is not a happy camper right now!

    I think the gun Shawn put together just happens to be the right combination. From barrel length to contour and the load work up. It just flat works and there is no way to really argue that.

    My second 338 EDGE (an exact twin) should be here any day now and I am excited to see if it shoots the same way.

    Also while we are here I want to comment on the Nightforce Scopes.

    First I will argue that there is better glass out there. I have the 8-32 NXS and it has nice glass but my high dollar Zeiss (Diavari) and my Swarovski has much better glass in them. In low light and at both ends of the power spetrum both the Zeiss and Swaro are noticably more crisp and bright.

    My NXS seems to be best in the 14-24 range. Don't get me wrong I feel it is much better than the Leupolds and similar type scopes and at least as good as my Zeiss Conquest stuff.

    I also feel that the parallax adjustment could use some work.

    Now the NXS has the best tracking system on the windage and elevation that I have ever seen. I have never had a scope that will return precisely to zero or track the adjustments like the NXS does. To me this makes it the only scope I will use.

    It also seems to be much more rugged. Where I hunt is pretty rough country and I hunt a lot and move a lot. Inevitably I will bump the gun and or scope at some point during a hunt. Luckily I can shoot at my house and I check my zero on a regular basis. It seems most of my other scopes need a slight adjustment to be dead on while the NXS has never moved and I have already bumped it pretty good chasing a big buck through the bluffs!

    I am also willing to bet that the 5.5-22 might be a little better comparison and I plan on putting one on another gun Shawn is doing for me.

    So I am not knocking it at all. I think that they are great scopes and overall I am very happy with it.

    Quad
     
  14. Takman

    Takman Well-Known Member

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    Can someone give me the lowdown on the 338 Edge cartridge? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif