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Yet another barrel breakin/cleaning question...
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<blockquote data-quote="cdherman" data-source="post: 439661" data-attributes="member: 12282"><p>Pardon, but I have not been able to find the answer to this one...</p><p> </p><p>New factory barrel on a Savage 270 WSM</p><p> </p><p>I'd like to follow the common instructions out there to clean after each shot for the first 5 round, then after every five for a while etc....</p><p> </p><p>But when I try to get ALL the color out, I cannot.</p><p> </p><p>I have had this trouble for sometime, with several guns. I use Montana Extreme or Butches Boreshine. I have Dewey's nylon coated rods. I had been useing phospor bronze brushes, but have now tried nylon as well.</p><p> </p><p>The brushes have brass ferrules, as does the rod. I run 20 strokes with the brush, then follow with a soaked patch.</p><p> </p><p>I keep doing this, expecting the patch eventually to come out clean. But it never does.</p><p> </p><p>If I run a second patch, its pretty clean, a third dry patch will be spotless after a couple cycles.</p><p> </p><p>But if I repeat the scrub with a brush (does not seem to matter, nylon or phosphor), I get blue black color on my patch. Even if I have repeated 10 cycles of brush and patch....</p><p> </p><p>I do not have a Borescope.</p><p> </p><p>Are my black patches just from the brass on the rod and the brass wire on the nylon brushes? Or do I have copper still in the barrel?</p><p> </p><p>And if you tell me I still have copper in the barrel, then what kind of OCD, self punishing, saint ever follows these guidelines out there that say to clean out the barrel of all copper after each shot for the first 5-10 shots?????</p><p> </p><p>I mean -- it takes me about 20 minutes to get these guns even "sort of" clean.</p><p> </p><p>I seem to feel that the definition of "clean" is pretty variable....</p><p> </p><p>I want to break this new barrel in "by the books" so that if it does not shoot, I can use it for a boat anchor in good conscience and get a hand lapped Shilen knowing that factory barrels just suck and there is no way around that.....</p><p> </p><p>Thanks In Advance....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cdherman, post: 439661, member: 12282"] Pardon, but I have not been able to find the answer to this one... New factory barrel on a Savage 270 WSM I'd like to follow the common instructions out there to clean after each shot for the first 5 round, then after every five for a while etc.... But when I try to get ALL the color out, I cannot. I have had this trouble for sometime, with several guns. I use Montana Extreme or Butches Boreshine. I have Dewey's nylon coated rods. I had been useing phospor bronze brushes, but have now tried nylon as well. The brushes have brass ferrules, as does the rod. I run 20 strokes with the brush, then follow with a soaked patch. I keep doing this, expecting the patch eventually to come out clean. But it never does. If I run a second patch, its pretty clean, a third dry patch will be spotless after a couple cycles. But if I repeat the scrub with a brush (does not seem to matter, nylon or phosphor), I get blue black color on my patch. Even if I have repeated 10 cycles of brush and patch.... I do not have a Borescope. Are my black patches just from the brass on the rod and the brass wire on the nylon brushes? Or do I have copper still in the barrel? And if you tell me I still have copper in the barrel, then what kind of OCD, self punishing, saint ever follows these guidelines out there that say to clean out the barrel of all copper after each shot for the first 5-10 shots????? I mean -- it takes me about 20 minutes to get these guns even "sort of" clean. I seem to feel that the definition of "clean" is pretty variable.... I want to break this new barrel in "by the books" so that if it does not shoot, I can use it for a boat anchor in good conscience and get a hand lapped Shilen knowing that factory barrels just suck and there is no way around that..... Thanks In Advance.... [/QUOTE]
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