I have a NIB Vortex Viper 6-24x44 mil dot, still in box, so I would have to have darn near what a new one would cost ya. Their $429 dlr cost on MidwayUSA so I'd probably do like $425. Very nice optic, but I have a new Weaver 4-20x50mm mil/mil that are $800 from Midway that has better looking glass, and FFP, I'd do for $700. I like the Vortex, just really don't need all the pwr, need more like the HST 4-16.