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<blockquote data-quote="sedancowboy" data-source="post: 1875234" data-attributes="member: 85874"><p>The 40 S & W was the wrong solution to a problem that the FBI had with poor performing ammo and inadequate weapon choices. After the 1986 shootout in Miami the FBI realized they had been out gunned by the criminal element. They set out to remedy their situation with a series of tests. The test were between the 9mm Luger, the brand new 10MM and the 45 Auto. With 1886 current production ammo the 10 MM won hands down. This is a case when theory don't match reality.</p><p>The 10MM was a handful. The S & W 1076 was a huge pistol and not conductive to small hands shooting it well. It also had some issues with function that never got worked out. </p><p>The reality was that the 10MM was too much gun for the agents on the line so the FBI had it downloaded to a more manageable level. And so someone at Winchester and S&W said hey if you are going to download it they why don't we put it in a shorter case and shoot it in a 9mm luger frame size gun. So the 40 S&W was born. Now everyone was scrambling to chamber their 9mm frame to 40 S&W because the mighty FBI thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Well hold on a minute the 9mms converted to 40 S&W with a much heavier bullet with more recoil and energy was not holding up so well. While all this was happening the Ammo makers were perfecting their ammo and making the venerable 9mm better and better. So here we are today where we have 9mm ammo that is as good as the 40 S&W ammo of yesteryear. Now the 40 S&W ammo has also made the same gains but the coffin is already full of nails. The fact is that there was never a need for the 40 S&W and reality caught up with everyone thinking that they had to shoot the exact gun the FBI was using. We are also seeing a surge in 10 MM sales almost every gun manufacture has a 10MM which is a great cartridge and that is why it won't be denied its proper place in history. It just works and it works well, it was not intended for a pocket gun but for a hunting sidearm it is hard to beat. The 40 S&W really don't fit anywhere it is too large for a small concealed weapon and too small for a hunting sidearm. Alas it is a great medium cartridge but nobody wants a medium anything. It will not completely die because of all the LE trade-ins on the market but it will never gain market share either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sedancowboy, post: 1875234, member: 85874"] The 40 S & W was the wrong solution to a problem that the FBI had with poor performing ammo and inadequate weapon choices. After the 1986 shootout in Miami the FBI realized they had been out gunned by the criminal element. They set out to remedy their situation with a series of tests. The test were between the 9mm Luger, the brand new 10MM and the 45 Auto. With 1886 current production ammo the 10 MM won hands down. This is a case when theory don't match reality. The 10MM was a handful. The S & W 1076 was a huge pistol and not conductive to small hands shooting it well. It also had some issues with function that never got worked out. The reality was that the 10MM was too much gun for the agents on the line so the FBI had it downloaded to a more manageable level. And so someone at Winchester and S&W said hey if you are going to download it they why don't we put it in a shorter case and shoot it in a 9mm luger frame size gun. So the 40 S&W was born. Now everyone was scrambling to chamber their 9mm frame to 40 S&W because the mighty FBI thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Well hold on a minute the 9mms converted to 40 S&W with a much heavier bullet with more recoil and energy was not holding up so well. While all this was happening the Ammo makers were perfecting their ammo and making the venerable 9mm better and better. So here we are today where we have 9mm ammo that is as good as the 40 S&W ammo of yesteryear. Now the 40 S&W ammo has also made the same gains but the coffin is already full of nails. The fact is that there was never a need for the 40 S&W and reality caught up with everyone thinking that they had to shoot the exact gun the FBI was using. We are also seeing a surge in 10 MM sales almost every gun manufacture has a 10MM which is a great cartridge and that is why it won't be denied its proper place in history. It just works and it works well, it was not intended for a pocket gun but for a hunting sidearm it is hard to beat. The 40 S&W really don't fit anywhere it is too large for a small concealed weapon and too small for a hunting sidearm. Alas it is a great medium cartridge but nobody wants a medium anything. It will not completely die because of all the LE trade-ins on the market but it will never gain market share either. [/QUOTE]
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