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Why can’t we get good dies!
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<blockquote data-quote="Stiltsville" data-source="post: 1922023" data-attributes="member: 114352"><p>So you are saying that on a rimless cartridge, a misfire is caused by the case head 2/10s above the back of the case ? That is the area generally known as the web. If the web is too large the cartridge will not chamber. If the web is too small (as is all factory ammo), the cartridge will still fire IF the headspace is correct.</p><p></p><p>He (mysterious Ryan) ( Your pal ?) has never really what the problem is.</p><p></p><p>Neither he nor you can describe in plain English, with examples, what this phantom problem unknown to anyone but Ryan.</p><p></p><p>He said: "I get clickers on most rifles after a few firings because the web isn't getting sized."</p><p></p><p>I assume a "clicker" is a misfire (???) The ONLY way to get a misfire in a rimless cartridge with good components, is excessive headspace in the rifle OR the cartridge shoulder pushed back.</p><p></p><p>As I pointed out, IF the head is too big you cannot chamber the cartridge.</p><p></p><p>I just cannot believe you are carrying the water for this BS post.</p><p></p><p><strong>Seems like no one else can be bothered even commenting on such a comedy of errors !</strong></p><p></p><p>This Ryan's problem as described in 100s of reloading books which he he and you have not read and understood !</p><p></p><p>"Basically, headspace is the measurement from the slope of the shoulder to the base of the cartridge, or the corresponding dimensions in the rifle chamber. Excessive chamber headspace allows the cartridge to be farther forward in the chamber away from the firing pin, or it can allow for the cartridge case to move forward when struck by the firing pin. Certainly, this can affect ignition reliability and cause misfires."</p><p></p><p><strong><u>IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CARTRIDGE HEAD DIMENSION !</u></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stiltsville, post: 1922023, member: 114352"] So you are saying that on a rimless cartridge, a misfire is caused by the case head 2/10s above the back of the case ? That is the area generally known as the web. If the web is too large the cartridge will not chamber. If the web is too small (as is all factory ammo), the cartridge will still fire IF the headspace is correct. He (mysterious Ryan) ( Your pal ?) has never really what the problem is. Neither he nor you can describe in plain English, with examples, what this phantom problem unknown to anyone but Ryan. He said: "I get clickers on most rifles after a few firings because the web isn’t getting sized." I assume a "clicker" is a misfire (???) The ONLY way to get a misfire in a rimless cartridge with good components, is excessive headspace in the rifle OR the cartridge shoulder pushed back. As I pointed out, IF the head is too big you cannot chamber the cartridge. I just cannot believe you are carrying the water for this BS post. [B]Seems like no one else can be bothered even commenting on such a comedy of errors ![/B] This Ryan's problem as described in 100s of reloading books which he he and you have not read and understood ! "Basically, headspace is the measurement from the slope of the shoulder to the base of the cartridge, or the corresponding dimensions in the rifle chamber. Excessive chamber headspace allows the cartridge to be farther forward in the chamber away from the firing pin, or it can allow for the cartridge case to move forward when struck by the firing pin. Certainly, this can affect ignition reliability and cause misfires." [B][U]IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CARTRIDGE HEAD DIMENSION ![/U][/B] [/QUOTE]
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