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<blockquote data-quote="44-40" data-source="post: 2861170" data-attributes="member: 126985"><p>Long range hunting and snipers are as old as rifles. Billy Dixon a buffalo hunter killed an Indian chief at over 1500 yds one shot 50 cal sharps at Adobe wells. Buffalo hunters slaughtered millions of Buffalo, many at long range. In 1879 Sandy Hook US Army shoots the 45-70 500gr to 2500 and 3200 yards connecting on the 6 foot bullseye with Springfield rifles at that range...in 1879 declared the 45-70 good for 1900 yd engagements. Open sights, no rear rest, barrel rest and a 7 lb trigger pull and several rifles from Springfield were used...these guys were excellent marksman. Old military mauser had a ladder graduations to 2000 meters. Winchester has ladder sights for the old anemic 44-40 lever gun as men of the black powder era insisted on long rang capabilities of rifles for military and civilian use...2000 yard engagements in the desert sands in British colonies. SGT York WW1... Long rang engagement is not new, and commonly used to wipe out the game herds, especially Buffalo. Custer even shot LR with his 50-70 to kill antelope to feed the 7th Calvary. Long range shooters of today, including me, have accomplished nothing new...and those old guys were real marksman, no scopes, no smokless powder, no electronic gagets, or yardage measurements. So our accomplishments are rather dismal by comparison. Just the facts...but I'd like to think that, I too, made a few good shots...but with modern equipment and components, ..reality from the past says, ...not really. Try hitting a bullseye open sights 2500 to 3200 yds Springfield 45-70 500 gr lead, with black powder, no rear rest, 7 lb trigger, as was accomplished in 1879. Those Quigley type guys really did exist...For me, too old to even focus on the open sights comes to mind...nothing new about long range hunting, or sniping...just better equipment to help more be successful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="44-40, post: 2861170, member: 126985"] Long range hunting and snipers are as old as rifles. Billy Dixon a buffalo hunter killed an Indian chief at over 1500 yds one shot 50 cal sharps at Adobe wells. Buffalo hunters slaughtered millions of Buffalo, many at long range. In 1879 Sandy Hook US Army shoots the 45-70 500gr to 2500 and 3200 yards connecting on the 6 foot bullseye with Springfield rifles at that range...in 1879 declared the 45-70 good for 1900 yd engagements. Open sights, no rear rest, barrel rest and a 7 lb trigger pull and several rifles from Springfield were used...these guys were excellent marksman. Old military mauser had a ladder graduations to 2000 meters. Winchester has ladder sights for the old anemic 44-40 lever gun as men of the black powder era insisted on long rang capabilities of rifles for military and civilian use...2000 yard engagements in the desert sands in British colonies. SGT York WW1... Long rang engagement is not new, and commonly used to wipe out the game herds, especially Buffalo. Custer even shot LR with his 50-70 to kill antelope to feed the 7th Calvary. Long range shooters of today, including me, have accomplished nothing new...and those old guys were real marksman, no scopes, no smokless powder, no electronic gagets, or yardage measurements. So our accomplishments are rather dismal by comparison. Just the facts...but I'd like to think that, I too, made a few good shots...but with modern equipment and components, ..reality from the past says, ...not really. Try hitting a bullseye open sights 2500 to 3200 yds Springfield 45-70 500 gr lead, with black powder, no rear rest, 7 lb trigger, as was accomplished in 1879. Those Quigley type guys really did exist...For me, too old to even focus on the open sights comes to mind...nothing new about long range hunting, or sniping...just better equipment to help more be successful. [/QUOTE]
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