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<blockquote data-quote="catorres1" data-source="post: 1019691" data-attributes="member: 80699"><p>Well, see what you think of these numbers. Note: Magnum loads are minimum loads from Nosler's website, or in the case of the 7mag with 162's, Hornady. Nosler just did not have that many 168 loads to choose from. In the case of the Nosler loads, the load was the most accurate tested in that powder, and also the minimum load. Interestingly, many of the minimum loads were actually the most accurate, especially with the 300 magnum. In that case, I used loads for the 190, as they don't make a 185, same with the 308</p><p></p><p>For the 162's from Hornady, no idea if it was accurate. I know Sierra also offers data on which powder and load was the most accurate, but I don't have Sierra's manual.</p><p></p><p>Recoil numbers come from Point Blank's calculator, assuming a 10.5lb rig.</p><p></p><p>308</p><p>185gr</p><p>2600 fps</p><p>14.8 lbs</p><p>9.5 fps</p><p></p><p>7mag</p><p>175gr</p><p>2690 fps</p><p>16.25 lbs</p><p>9.9fps</p><p></p><p>162 gr</p><p>2600</p><p>15 lbs</p><p>9.6 fps</p><p></p><p>300 mag</p><p></p><p>185 or 190</p><p>2684 fps</p><p>20.1 lbs</p><p>11.1 fps</p><p></p><p>My takeaway on this? The 7 mag looks like a winner. A full bore 260 load does better on wind drift by about 6 inches at 1k with a 10mph wind. But it handily beats the 300 and the 308. Less recoil than the 300 with less drift. Only very slightly more than the 308, with way less drift.</p><p></p><p>The 300 has 33% more recoil than the 308, and about 25-33% more than the 7 mag. That being said, this load has less than 50% of the recoil of what I have been shooting, so there is that.</p><p></p><p>But still, this downloading looks like it might be a viable option if I find that the rifle and stock I want only come in a magnum caliber. Only thing is....I don't think they do a 7mag in the 5r....</p><p></p><p>So 5r 308...requires selling the stock it came with and getting another and having it bedded...not too keen on that if I can avoid it</p><p></p><p>7mag...no 5r available! Could buy the LR rifle in 7 mag and hope it shoots, but basically expect to have to rebarrel....in which case...it's a $1300 rifle. Not so good.</p><p></p><p>300 mag 5r...good stock, good reputation. Same round I want to hunt with (albiet at full velocity). Downside...25-33% more recoil.</p><p></p><p>260/6.5....a rebarrel of an RC vanguard Varmint. Likely about 1400ish. Or could do the same to a remington LR...about 1300. Doing it with an SPS is like 1350 or more.</p><p></p><p>At this point, if they made a 5r 7mag that has the same reputation as I am seeing on the 5r 308's, I'd be mighty tempted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="catorres1, post: 1019691, member: 80699"] Well, see what you think of these numbers. Note: Magnum loads are minimum loads from Nosler's website, or in the case of the 7mag with 162's, Hornady. Nosler just did not have that many 168 loads to choose from. In the case of the Nosler loads, the load was the most accurate tested in that powder, and also the minimum load. Interestingly, many of the minimum loads were actually the most accurate, especially with the 300 magnum. In that case, I used loads for the 190, as they don't make a 185, same with the 308 For the 162's from Hornady, no idea if it was accurate. I know Sierra also offers data on which powder and load was the most accurate, but I don't have Sierra's manual. Recoil numbers come from Point Blank's calculator, assuming a 10.5lb rig. 308 185gr 2600 fps 14.8 lbs 9.5 fps 7mag 175gr 2690 fps 16.25 lbs 9.9fps 162 gr 2600 15 lbs 9.6 fps 300 mag 185 or 190 2684 fps 20.1 lbs 11.1 fps My takeaway on this? The 7 mag looks like a winner. A full bore 260 load does better on wind drift by about 6 inches at 1k with a 10mph wind. But it handily beats the 300 and the 308. Less recoil than the 300 with less drift. Only very slightly more than the 308, with way less drift. The 300 has 33% more recoil than the 308, and about 25-33% more than the 7 mag. That being said, this load has less than 50% of the recoil of what I have been shooting, so there is that. But still, this downloading looks like it might be a viable option if I find that the rifle and stock I want only come in a magnum caliber. Only thing is....I don't think they do a 7mag in the 5r.... So 5r 308...requires selling the stock it came with and getting another and having it bedded...not too keen on that if I can avoid it 7mag...no 5r available! Could buy the LR rifle in 7 mag and hope it shoots, but basically expect to have to rebarrel....in which case...it's a $1300 rifle. Not so good. 300 mag 5r...good stock, good reputation. Same round I want to hunt with (albiet at full velocity). Downside...25-33% more recoil. 260/6.5....a rebarrel of an RC vanguard Varmint. Likely about 1400ish. Or could do the same to a remington LR...about 1300. Doing it with an SPS is like 1350 or more. At this point, if they made a 5r 7mag that has the same reputation as I am seeing on the 5r 308's, I'd be mighty tempted. [/QUOTE]
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