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<blockquote data-quote="Bigeclipse" data-source="post: 1043512" data-attributes="member: 52437"><p>Thanks for the advice but we already have the action for the build. The other reason she chose a boyds stock is the "pretty colors" lol or so she said. </p><p>I explained to her these laminates add .6ounces more than the factory synthetic and she stated she was ok with that just as long as the overall weight does not go heavier than her current rifle which is 9lbs 1 ounce with scope. We have some room to play with as far as weight and I have decided to go with an ER shaw barrel blank through apache gun works. They only charge 200 bucks and apparently they have good success in making these blanks shoot very well. Always below 1MOA and most often closer to .5MOA, especially with worked up loads. the reason for the long action is I got it crazy cheap at a gun show (275$), it has a very crisp accutrigger with 3lb pull (tested with my pull gague) and it is in excellent condition. Yes the short action would have saved some weight, but not too much. </p><p>We will have the boyds stock cut to her length of pull (13 1/4inch) so it should fit well. I have calculated that if the ER SHAW barrel comes in close to the weight of the factory barrel (which it should since it is the same contour) then we will be at 8lbs 10ounces finished with scope. This is still lighter than what she has been using for years which is great and will give her the "looks" of a rifle she desires haha. Win Win. </p><p> </p><p>As for 6.5creedmore, id prefer the 260rem over that, and we are likely going 7mm-08. The reason for 7mm-08 over 308...the 7mm-08 comes in at about the highest recoil level for her to shoot for a shooting session. She can tolerate my 3006 (which weighs about what hers should just about finish at) but after about 5 shots, she starts to develop a slight flinch which we always stop once she starts flinching. I figure the 308 will be comparable to the 3006 but the 7mm-08 with 120gr bullets should be about a perfect balance between recoil and still taking deer at 400 yards (most likely all shots under 300 yards). Then if she gets used to recoil we can bump it up to 140s and heavier loadings if she desires. Even the 140s at reasonable speeds have a 20-30% recoil reduction compared to 308 150s at reasonable speeds. The recoil calculators suggest about 10ft/lbs 7mm-08 with 140s vs 12.-13.5ft/lbs on 150s for the 308 (these were calculated with a 9lb rifle for both instances). Again maybe I am looking at all this wrong but I did try to convince her about the stock options and she is insistent on the "pretty" stocks lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bigeclipse, post: 1043512, member: 52437"] Thanks for the advice but we already have the action for the build. The other reason she chose a boyds stock is the "pretty colors" lol or so she said. I explained to her these laminates add .6ounces more than the factory synthetic and she stated she was ok with that just as long as the overall weight does not go heavier than her current rifle which is 9lbs 1 ounce with scope. We have some room to play with as far as weight and I have decided to go with an ER shaw barrel blank through apache gun works. They only charge 200 bucks and apparently they have good success in making these blanks shoot very well. Always below 1MOA and most often closer to .5MOA, especially with worked up loads. the reason for the long action is I got it crazy cheap at a gun show (275$), it has a very crisp accutrigger with 3lb pull (tested with my pull gague) and it is in excellent condition. Yes the short action would have saved some weight, but not too much. We will have the boyds stock cut to her length of pull (13 1/4inch) so it should fit well. I have calculated that if the ER SHAW barrel comes in close to the weight of the factory barrel (which it should since it is the same contour) then we will be at 8lbs 10ounces finished with scope. This is still lighter than what she has been using for years which is great and will give her the "looks" of a rifle she desires haha. Win Win. As for 6.5creedmore, id prefer the 260rem over that, and we are likely going 7mm-08. The reason for 7mm-08 over 308...the 7mm-08 comes in at about the highest recoil level for her to shoot for a shooting session. She can tolerate my 3006 (which weighs about what hers should just about finish at) but after about 5 shots, she starts to develop a slight flinch which we always stop once she starts flinching. I figure the 308 will be comparable to the 3006 but the 7mm-08 with 120gr bullets should be about a perfect balance between recoil and still taking deer at 400 yards (most likely all shots under 300 yards). Then if she gets used to recoil we can bump it up to 140s and heavier loadings if she desires. Even the 140s at reasonable speeds have a 20-30% recoil reduction compared to 308 150s at reasonable speeds. The recoil calculators suggest about 10ft/lbs 7mm-08 with 140s vs 12.-13.5ft/lbs on 150s for the 308 (these were calculated with a 9lb rifle for both instances). Again maybe I am looking at all this wrong but I did try to convince her about the stock options and she is insistent on the "pretty" stocks lol. [/QUOTE]
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