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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 432142" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>AJ, I really don't know where to start but I think you have been fed some biased info somewhere down the line to draw your opinions. I could care less what a guy shoots as long as he is good with it. I have 40 years experience building rifles, shooting, reloading, etc. All I try to do here is answer questions the best I can using that experience to help people. I am not using opinions but facts I have learned from actually building, shooting and hunting with the rifles I talk about. </p><p> </p><p>I could set up all the rifles I mentioned from the ultramags and faster identically with unstamped barrels and let you shoot them 1000 rounds and hunt all over with them. You would not be able to tell me which was which without drop tests or a chronograph obviously showing you which were the fast ones but you still wouldn't know which fast one. You would not be able to tell me from recoil, muzzle blast or barrel wear. You would be able to determine the fast ones from less drop to the target and less wind drift to the target. Or if you missed by 5 inches of wind drift or 15 inches of drop to target.</p><p> </p><p>The fast ones are the best and eliminate the most variables in a hunting situation. No way you can get around that. I can best my standard 338-378 wby with an improved 338-378 wby. But I like the option of buying over the counter rounds so I choose not to shoot the best I can get. I feel 75 fps on average is not as important as buying rounds when the airlines loses them. That is trouble and why I don't go on big hunts or depend on any wildcat rounds. I own plenty of them and hunt around the house with them but not the big hunts.</p><p> </p><p>This is how I eliminate potential trouble on big hunts. I own the 338 RUM, 338-300 ultramag and 338 Lapua. All three are essentially hunting equals and one just as accurate as the other. If I am going on a big hunt or advising someone building just one rifle to do it all. The 338 RUM and 338 Lapua is far and away going to be the choice. Why the trouble of loading and shooting a wildcat cartridge and not being able to buy bullets in a pinch when the other two do the same thing? That is preventing trouble. That comes from years of experience and not getting caught up in fads. I realize the 338-300 ultramag some on here call edge is very popular on this site from a lot of hype. It is an excellent cartridge and that is what I thought it would be when we got the specs from remington in 1998 on the 300 ultramag and I started immediately designing a 338 off of it. It was exactly what I had been looking for since the 70's to fit on a standard magnum action. Best 338 I had ever found to do that from a performance standpoint and cheap accesible remington brass. Did a ton of them during that time. But then the 338 RUM came out in 2001 that did the same thing and fit better on a standard magnum action. It became the better choice because it was over the counter products if a guy needed them in a pinch. No need the trouble of the 338-300 wildcat any more.</p><p> </p><p>I use those as examples because those are the ones most mentioned in the thread but I can go into many calibers and cartridges the same way on how to prevent trouble. I can do that from facts I have learned and not opinions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 432142, member: 505"] AJ, I really don't know where to start but I think you have been fed some biased info somewhere down the line to draw your opinions. I could care less what a guy shoots as long as he is good with it. I have 40 years experience building rifles, shooting, reloading, etc. All I try to do here is answer questions the best I can using that experience to help people. I am not using opinions but facts I have learned from actually building, shooting and hunting with the rifles I talk about. I could set up all the rifles I mentioned from the ultramags and faster identically with unstamped barrels and let you shoot them 1000 rounds and hunt all over with them. You would not be able to tell me which was which without drop tests or a chronograph obviously showing you which were the fast ones but you still wouldn't know which fast one. You would not be able to tell me from recoil, muzzle blast or barrel wear. You would be able to determine the fast ones from less drop to the target and less wind drift to the target. Or if you missed by 5 inches of wind drift or 15 inches of drop to target. The fast ones are the best and eliminate the most variables in a hunting situation. No way you can get around that. I can best my standard 338-378 wby with an improved 338-378 wby. But I like the option of buying over the counter rounds so I choose not to shoot the best I can get. I feel 75 fps on average is not as important as buying rounds when the airlines loses them. That is trouble and why I don't go on big hunts or depend on any wildcat rounds. I own plenty of them and hunt around the house with them but not the big hunts. This is how I eliminate potential trouble on big hunts. I own the 338 RUM, 338-300 ultramag and 338 Lapua. All three are essentially hunting equals and one just as accurate as the other. If I am going on a big hunt or advising someone building just one rifle to do it all. The 338 RUM and 338 Lapua is far and away going to be the choice. Why the trouble of loading and shooting a wildcat cartridge and not being able to buy bullets in a pinch when the other two do the same thing? That is preventing trouble. That comes from years of experience and not getting caught up in fads. I realize the 338-300 ultramag some on here call edge is very popular on this site from a lot of hype. It is an excellent cartridge and that is what I thought it would be when we got the specs from remington in 1998 on the 300 ultramag and I started immediately designing a 338 off of it. It was exactly what I had been looking for since the 70's to fit on a standard magnum action. Best 338 I had ever found to do that from a performance standpoint and cheap accesible remington brass. Did a ton of them during that time. But then the 338 RUM came out in 2001 that did the same thing and fit better on a standard magnum action. It became the better choice because it was over the counter products if a guy needed them in a pinch. No need the trouble of the 338-300 wildcat any more. I use those as examples because those are the ones most mentioned in the thread but I can go into many calibers and cartridges the same way on how to prevent trouble. I can do that from facts I have learned and not opinions. [/QUOTE]
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