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Whats Todays Thoughts On The 284?
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<blockquote data-quote="AZShooter" data-source="post: 1832249" data-attributes="member: 5219"><p>Have had at least one and as many as three 284s since 1985. My first rifle was a SA Ruger tang safety that got rebarreled with a shortened and rechambered 7 Rem mag takeoff. That began my long history with this cartridge. </p><p>I have taken many elk, coues wt, mule deer and javelina not to mention jackrabbits and coyotes with this rifle which I still own. </p><p></p><p>I now have my own reamer spec'ed out for a .315" neck so the win brass gets skim turned. The old Ruger is on barrel #3. Most recent barrel is one I did myself. Set back and rechambered a Rem takeoff in 7-08. The 23" barrel was and custom reamer were set up to shoot the 168 VLD. OAL is 3.050" in the modified mag box. 52 gr of RL-17 yields 2925 with this bullet. </p><p></p><p>You said you are only interested in 131gr to 140. IMO H4350 or RL-17 are the best for those weight bullets. FYI as long as you were talking about old...the original loads that Bob Hutton worked up was 57 of IMR 4350 with a 140 partition. (killed a few elk with that exact combo in the late 80s) </p><p></p><p>There is another bullet that you might consider, the 120 gr Nosler Ballistic tip. I have a load for it with my most recent rifle: My load with this bullet:<em>120 nosler bt 58 gr of RL-17 3494 fps your results my vary. </em></p><p></p><p> If you take the time to read about it this is one tough bullet. Steve Timm had mentioned this bullet a few times on 24 hr campfire. I saved one of his posts;</p><p></p><p>"</p><p>The 120Ballistic is one heck of a tough bullet. I've killed bull moose, a good number of mature bull elk, big-honking Northern Alberta whitetail & mules and quite a few American pronghorn with the 120. Maybe thirty++ kills in all and though the 7-08 Ackley (7SGLC) and my .270 Ackley Improved</p><p></p><p>Every single one of my 120 Ballistic kills have been one-shot kills. The only 120s I've ever recovered were from two very-mature 6X6 bull elk … one at 375-ish in the vertical spine and one dead-center through the shoulders at 450-ish.</p><p></p><p>The two recovered bullets are around here somewhere in this mess. If memory serves, the bullets opened to .750"-.800" and both expanded bullets weighed about 100-grains.</p><p></p><p>I've told the story multiple times, in this forum, about how the 120Ballistic came to be. So I won't bore you.</p><p></p><p>Trust me, the 120Ballistic is all the 7mm bullet I've used for many, many years and it's always proved to be all the danged bullet I'll ever need … or use."</p><p></p><p>Steve</p><p></p><p>Finally Norma now makes 284 win brass. Shiraz Balolia a F class shooter and owner of Grizzly Industrial had Norma make some a while back with some extremely high tolerances. While Bullets.com no longer exists the brass is available. I just looked it up and Midway has some for 84/99/100 If I didn't own hundreds of pieces of the old 284 win brass I would be using it.</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021710683/100[/URL]!</p><p></p><p> Article on the brass: </p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2015/08/ultra-high-grade-norma-284-win-brass-now-available/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AZShooter, post: 1832249, member: 5219"] Have had at least one and as many as three 284s since 1985. My first rifle was a SA Ruger tang safety that got rebarreled with a shortened and rechambered 7 Rem mag takeoff. That began my long history with this cartridge. I have taken many elk, coues wt, mule deer and javelina not to mention jackrabbits and coyotes with this rifle which I still own. I now have my own reamer spec'ed out for a .315" neck so the win brass gets skim turned. The old Ruger is on barrel #3. Most recent barrel is one I did myself. Set back and rechambered a Rem takeoff in 7-08. The 23" barrel was and custom reamer were set up to shoot the 168 VLD. OAL is 3.050" in the modified mag box. 52 gr of RL-17 yields 2925 with this bullet. You said you are only interested in 131gr to 140. IMO H4350 or RL-17 are the best for those weight bullets. FYI as long as you were talking about old...the original loads that Bob Hutton worked up was 57 of IMR 4350 with a 140 partition. (killed a few elk with that exact combo in the late 80s) There is another bullet that you might consider, the 120 gr Nosler Ballistic tip. I have a load for it with my most recent rifle: My load with this bullet:[I]120 nosler bt 58 gr of RL-17 3494 fps your results my vary. [/I] If you take the time to read about it this is one tough bullet. Steve Timm had mentioned this bullet a few times on 24 hr campfire. I saved one of his posts; " The 120Ballistic is one heck of a tough bullet. I've killed bull moose, a good number of mature bull elk, big-honking Northern Alberta whitetail & mules and quite a few American pronghorn with the 120. Maybe thirty++ kills in all and though the 7-08 Ackley (7SGLC) and my .270 Ackley Improved Every single one of my 120 Ballistic kills have been one-shot kills. The only 120s I've ever recovered were from two very-mature 6X6 bull elk … one at 375-ish in the vertical spine and one dead-center through the shoulders at 450-ish. The two recovered bullets are around here somewhere in this mess. If memory serves, the bullets opened to .750"-.800" and both expanded bullets weighed about 100-grains. I've told the story multiple times, in this forum, about how the 120Ballistic came to be. So I won't bore you. Trust me, the 120Ballistic is all the 7mm bullet I've used for many, many years and it's always proved to be all the danged bullet I'll ever need … or use." Steve Finally Norma now makes 284 win brass. Shiraz Balolia a F class shooter and owner of Grizzly Industrial had Norma make some a while back with some extremely high tolerances. While Bullets.com no longer exists the brass is available. I just looked it up and Midway has some for 84/99/100 If I didn't own hundreds of pieces of the old 284 win brass I would be using it. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021710683/100[/URL]! Article on the brass: [URL unfurl="true"]http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2015/08/ultra-high-grade-norma-284-win-brass-now-available/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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