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What is the MOST FUSSY cartridge...and LEAST?
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<blockquote data-quote="kraig" data-source="post: 2972009" data-attributes="member: 108101"><p>After years of shooting and more guns than I'd ever admit to my wife...I've had factory guns that shot just about everything and ones that would only shoot that one load. I've built guns that have shot just about everything and ones that were disappointing with most everything until tuning in with hand loads. Some with barrels from the same company shoot awesome, then one will be fussy as all get out. I see no real pattern other than the better the barrel and the components the better the chances of not fussy.</p><p></p><p>By far the least fussy combo I've put together is a 300 win mag of all cartridges with a factory Rem700 action, thick aftermarket lug, and a discounted/2nds Black Hole Weaponry straight taper standard weight barrel sitting in a run of the mill Bell & Carlson stock. It has literally shot 10 different types of factory from 150g - 190g with sub moa accuracy (usually about .75") and often very little point of aim shift. I've never bothered to hand load for it.</p><p></p><p>I've put together a 458socom, 300PRC, 7mag, 6.5-06, 6.5cm bolt gun that shoots ragged holes with factory ammo and even better with hand loads. (the 300PRC, 6.5-06, & 6.5cm all shoot .3-.5 normally when I do my job & the rare .2-.3 groups but that isn't normal because I'm not that consistent) </p><p></p><p>On the flip side my .223 "trigger time trainer" that matches my 300PRC in every way has been almost impossible to get to shoot real good. Same barrel mfg, same stock, same chassis, same trigger, same action. It's my punishment for expecting great things and hoping for it to shoot factory ammo for simplicity. Outback 69g factory ammo will shoot about .5 in it but everything else is .75 on up to 2" AND I've tried at least 25 different brands / weights. (so I reload for it because outback ammo isn't always available)</p><p></p><p>Guess that's a long story for saying, I don't think there is any magic recipe for an accurate gun if you want something that shoots .5 - .75 moa or better. Then again if your idea of accurate is 1-1.5moa then you can buy just about anything these days and get that. I've consistently been able to improve any gun / ammo combo with a tuner though.</p><p></p><p>We live in great times for shooters. 20 years ago it took a lot more work to get such good shooting guns/ammo.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kraig, post: 2972009, member: 108101"] After years of shooting and more guns than I'd ever admit to my wife...I've had factory guns that shot just about everything and ones that would only shoot that one load. I've built guns that have shot just about everything and ones that were disappointing with most everything until tuning in with hand loads. Some with barrels from the same company shoot awesome, then one will be fussy as all get out. I see no real pattern other than the better the barrel and the components the better the chances of not fussy. By far the least fussy combo I've put together is a 300 win mag of all cartridges with a factory Rem700 action, thick aftermarket lug, and a discounted/2nds Black Hole Weaponry straight taper standard weight barrel sitting in a run of the mill Bell & Carlson stock. It has literally shot 10 different types of factory from 150g - 190g with sub moa accuracy (usually about .75") and often very little point of aim shift. I've never bothered to hand load for it. I've put together a 458socom, 300PRC, 7mag, 6.5-06, 6.5cm bolt gun that shoots ragged holes with factory ammo and even better with hand loads. (the 300PRC, 6.5-06, & 6.5cm all shoot .3-.5 normally when I do my job & the rare .2-.3 groups but that isn't normal because I'm not that consistent) On the flip side my .223 "trigger time trainer" that matches my 300PRC in every way has been almost impossible to get to shoot real good. Same barrel mfg, same stock, same chassis, same trigger, same action. It's my punishment for expecting great things and hoping for it to shoot factory ammo for simplicity. Outback 69g factory ammo will shoot about .5 in it but everything else is .75 on up to 2" AND I've tried at least 25 different brands / weights. (so I reload for it because outback ammo isn't always available) Guess that's a long story for saying, I don't think there is any magic recipe for an accurate gun if you want something that shoots .5 - .75 moa or better. Then again if your idea of accurate is 1-1.5moa then you can buy just about anything these days and get that. I've consistently been able to improve any gun / ammo combo with a tuner though. We live in great times for shooters. 20 years ago it took a lot more work to get such good shooting guns/ammo. [/QUOTE]
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