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what Brand rifle would are you planning to buy in the next 6 months
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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 543561" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>I think your completely wrong! Savage was always kind of a dark horse in the market, but virtually always out performed the Remington and Winchesters. But their real nich was the 99 and a few other items. Then about 25 years ago Sundra tested a 112V single shot rifle in 22-250. Shot 5/16" groups with it. The rifle wasn't pretty, and was pretty much a dull finished varmit rig. On the otherhand the Remington shills like Layne Simpson and a couple others wouldn't even look at one, and if by chance they did, they'd always use cheap factory ammo in it. On the otherhand gunsmiths refused to look at one cause they only knew how to work on a Remington or a Winchester. Then the word got out that with a Savage you don't need a gunsmith, and they've been moving towards the top of the heap ever since. What made them better was that they came from the factory with a much better barrel than the other guys did, and later they came with much better stocks.</p><p> </p><p> About 15 years ago it kinda looked like Ruger was going to make a serious push to build a super accurate target rifle. They did improve on their basic 77 action a bunch. One also has to give Ruger credit for chambering the 6PPC from the factory along with Sako. Winchester and Remington seemed to want to stay with the hand delt to them instead of build upon it. But Savage actually asked folks what they wanted, and simply responded.</p><p> </p><p> While all the above was happening; Savage completely retooled with quality equipment. Now their actions need little if any work to make then dead strait. The only other bunch to follow suit were Cooper and Weatherby. Remington worked with the small clicks of shooters, and they won't buy enough equipment to pay the light bill for a week. Savage worked with the folks they sold rifles to. Ruger seems to be looking at doing this, and Cooper already has. Yet each group has built their own nich among the shooting public out there, and it shows.</p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 543561, member: 25383"] I think your completely wrong! Savage was always kind of a dark horse in the market, but virtually always out performed the Remington and Winchesters. But their real nich was the 99 and a few other items. Then about 25 years ago Sundra tested a 112V single shot rifle in 22-250. Shot 5/16" groups with it. The rifle wasn't pretty, and was pretty much a dull finished varmit rig. On the otherhand the Remington shills like Layne Simpson and a couple others wouldn't even look at one, and if by chance they did, they'd always use cheap factory ammo in it. On the otherhand gunsmiths refused to look at one cause they only knew how to work on a Remington or a Winchester. Then the word got out that with a Savage you don't need a gunsmith, and they've been moving towards the top of the heap ever since. What made them better was that they came from the factory with a much better barrel than the other guys did, and later they came with much better stocks. About 15 years ago it kinda looked like Ruger was going to make a serious push to build a super accurate target rifle. They did improve on their basic 77 action a bunch. One also has to give Ruger credit for chambering the 6PPC from the factory along with Sako. Winchester and Remington seemed to want to stay with the hand delt to them instead of build upon it. But Savage actually asked folks what they wanted, and simply responded. While all the above was happening; Savage completely retooled with quality equipment. Now their actions need little if any work to make then dead strait. The only other bunch to follow suit were Cooper and Weatherby. Remington worked with the small clicks of shooters, and they won't buy enough equipment to pay the light bill for a week. Savage worked with the folks they sold rifles to. Ruger seems to be looking at doing this, and Cooper already has. Yet each group has built their own nich among the shooting public out there, and it shows. gary [/QUOTE]
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